American Airlines workers: Don't blame us for bankruptcy

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By Bob [email protected]

When American Airlines parent AMR Corp. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization last month, the finger of blame was primarily pointed at the company's workers.The word from management and Wall Street, repeated in news reports, was that American's problems were largely due to its well-paid, union-represented pilots, flight attendants and ground workers.That came as no surprise to the employees."We're used to hearing that. We're like the beaten dog," said Beth Smajstrla, a 27-year flight attendant.Yes, several longtime American employees concede in a series of recent interviews, the Fort Worth-based airline may have higher labor costs than its major competitors. But the employees said they aren't the reason American is in bankruptcy, and that just cutting employees' pay and pensions won't solve the airline's problems."It's a far bigger problem than labor," said Jim Poole, a 22-year veteran pilot, who wonders why what was once considered one of the world's best airlines is no longer a leader."I fly to Africa on Delta. I get there and there is United. Where is American?" Poole said. "I have to wonder where we are in the global picture."To a person, the employees interviewed for this report say American has suffered for years from weak leadership, poor choices and poorly timed decisions.It wasn't the unions, they say, that put off buying new, fuel-efficient jets. It wasn't rank-and-file employees who made the moves that lost market share to competitors. It wasn't the mechanics who ticked off the Federal Aviation Administration and caused it to ground hundreds of American's planes for days on end because of improper wiring.They say American's management, under former chief executive officer Gerard Arpey, lacked a clear, coherent strategy and that it fostered a business culture that spent more time on nickel-and-dime tactics than on a broader vision of providing its customers with a consistently high-quality travel experience. They point to what they call a massive, entrenched bureaucracy and way too many middle managers and supervisors.And it's frustrating, these American employees say, to look a few miles to the east and see a far different situation at Southwest Airlines, a Dallas-based company with bold leadership, vision and a management team that's not constantly in conflict with its workers.Some even long for someone like Robert Crandall, the straight-talking former American CEO the unions loved to hate. At least with Crandall, employees said, you knew where the company was headed and how it was going to get there. He talked with workers, asked them what could be done to make American better."He wasn't always smiley or being nice, but he wasn't giving us a line of crap," said Glenda Weitzel, a 23-year flight attendant.The American employees say they hope that Tom Horton, American's new chief executive officer, has what it takes to lead the airline back to some semblance of its former world-class stature."You want a leader to get out and lead. My perception is I never saw that from Arpey," said Craig Thorson, 52, a 22-year veteran pilot. "I want Mr. Horton to succeed. Absolutely, he must succeed. My career and that of every pilot and mechanic and flight attendant is far more dependent on the success of American Airlines than those of the executives."A lingering issue for workers is the $100 million in bonuses that executives received after persuading workers to take $1.6 billion a year in pay cuts and other concessions in 2003, to keep the airline out of bankruptcy. Now, they're frustrated that they will likely have to give again.Management's motto after the brush with bankruptcy in 2003 was "Pull together, win together.""They seemed to be doing that at first," said Christine Daniels, a 10-year Air Force veteran pilot who has been a first officer (co-pilot) at American since 1999. But the good will vanished with the management bonuses, which came once the airline was profitable in 2006."What happened to the 'Pull together, win together?'" asked Daniels, voicing a sentiment expressed by every worker interviewed. "We sacrificed a lot," she said."Their bonuses came out of our pockets," said Mike Morales, a 24-year ground worker who says he still makes $2 an hour less than he did before the 2003 pay cut.The American employees concede they were very well paid before 2003 and, by the standards of many other workers in society, remain well paid.American officials say the average pilot makes about $148,000 a year in wages, plus health and pension benefits. The average flight attendant earns about $49,000 a year.Horton has said American has a big labor cost disadvantage, about $800 million a year, compared with competitors United Continental and Delta airlines. Those carriers slashed labor costs in Chapter 11 reorganizations since 2003.But the concessions the unions granted to keep American out of bankruptcy in 2003 went beyond just a simple wage cut or working a couple of more days each month.For pilots, there was an across-the-board 23 percent cut. Many were forced to fly different planes, which meant another pay cut. Captains were bumped down to first officers, and first officers were bumped to less desirable routes and planes.Thorson, an MD-80 pilot, said that after reassignment, bumping and pay cuts, he took about an $80,000 a year cut in compensation the first year following the 2003 contract restructuring.Now, eight years later, American appears likely to dump its pilots' pension fund on the government-run Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. Thorson and many other older pilots will likely see their generous retirement payments cut nearly in half.For Daniels, who had left the Air Force only four years earlier to join American when the 2003 crisis hit, the changes moved her from being a first officer based in Dallas-Fort Worth, with regular time at home, to being put on the reserve list. That meant the mother of a 1-year-old was on call 20 to 21 days a month and working most weekends and holidays."My quality of life took a huge hit," Daniels said. In the past eight years she has been based at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport three times, Chicago twice and then San Francisco, which American has closed as a base. Now single, she recently moved to Colorado Springs to be near her parents and brother so they can take care of her son when she flies. She commutes to DFW."I find it kind of ironic," she says, "that I could go back to the Air Force and I would get a very nice pay increase."American filed for bankruptcy protection Nov. 29 after failing to reach a new contract with the Allied Pilots Association, its pilots union. But the flight attendants and ground workers don't blame the pilots."I think we're all pretty much on the same page," said Smajstrla, the flight attendant. "We're here to do whatever it takes to make this company successful. That's our commitment." But for that to happen, the employees say they believe there will have to be big changes in American's management and its approach to business and people.Some recent changes in American's leadership ranks, Poole said, have given him some reason for optimism. The chief pilot and top supervisors at American's hubs are all now active pilots who know the airline's operations, though Poole said too many managers aren't involved enough with the people they supervise.All these employees said they're lucky to have good jobs. Pilots live to fly. The flight attendants like what they do. But the glamour of the past, as portrayed in the television series Pan Am, is long gone."I've wanted to fly since I was 6 years old," Daniels said, recalling being stuck in traffic in Los Angeles and watching planes land at Los Angeles International Airport. But now she's usually gone overnights and will be working Christmas and New Year's.With American facing more travails, it's no longer the dream job Daniels envisioned."My son says he doesn't want to work for an airline, because he wants to be home weekends and Christmas."Bob Cox, 817-390-7723Twitter: @bobcoxict

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/24/3617490/american-airlines-workers-dont.html#my-headlines-default#storylink=cpy
 
By Bob [email protected]

When American Airlines parent AMR Corp. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization last month, the finger of blame was primarily pointed at the company's workers.The word from management and Wall Street, repeated in news reports, was that American's problems were largely due to its well-paid, union-represented pilots, flight attendants and ground workers.That came as no surprise to the employees."We're used to hearing that. We're like the beaten dog," said Beth Smajstrla, a 27-year flight attendant.Yes, several longtime American employees concede in a series of recent interviews, the Fort Worth-based airline may have higher labor costs than its major competitors. But the employees said they aren't the reason American is in bankruptcy, and that just cutting employees' pay and pensions won't solve the airline's problems."It's a far bigger problem than labor," said Jim Poole, a 22-year veteran pilot, who wonders why what was once considered one of the world's best airlines is no longer a leader."I fly to Africa on Delta. I get there and there is United. Where is American?" Poole said. "I have to wonder where we are in the global picture."To a person, the employees interviewed for this report say American has suffered for years from weak leadership, poor choices and poorly timed decisions.It wasn't the unions, they say, that put off buying new, fuel-efficient jets. It wasn't rank-and-file employees who made the moves that lost market share to competitors. It wasn't the mechanics who ticked off the Federal Aviation Administration and caused it to ground hundreds of American's planes for days on end because of improper wiring.They say American's management, under former chief executive officer Gerard Arpey, lacked a clear, coherent strategy and that it fostered a business culture that spent more time on nickel-and-dime tactics than on a broader vision of providing its customers with a consistently high-quality travel experience. They point to what they call a massive, entrenched bureaucracy and way too many middle managers and supervisors.And it's frustrating, these American employees say, to look a few miles to the east and see a far different situation at Southwest Airlines, a Dallas-based company with bold leadership, vision and a management team that's not constantly in conflict with its workers.Some even long for someone like Robert Crandall, the straight-talking former American CEO the unions loved to hate. At least with Crandall, employees said, you knew where the company was headed and how it was going to get there. He talked with workers, asked them what could be done to make American better."He wasn't always smiley or being nice, but he wasn't giving us a line of crap," said Glenda Weitzel, a 23-year flight attendant.The American employees say they hope that Tom Horton, American's new chief executive officer, has what it takes to lead the airline back to some semblance of its former world-class stature."You want a leader to get out and lead. My perception is I never saw that from Arpey," said Craig Thorson, 52, a 22-year veteran pilot. "I want Mr. Horton to succeed. Absolutely, he must succeed. My career and that of every pilot and mechanic and flight attendant is far more dependent on the success of American Airlines than those of the executives."A lingering issue for workers is the $100 million in bonuses that executives received after persuading workers to take $1.6 billion a year in pay cuts and other concessions in 2003, to keep the airline out of bankruptcy. Now, they're frustrated that they will likely have to give again.Management's motto after the brush with bankruptcy in 2003 was "Pull together, win together.""They seemed to be doing that at first," said Christine Daniels, a 10-year Air Force veteran pilot who has been a first officer (co-pilot) at American since 1999. But the good will vanished with the management bonuses, which came once the airline was profitable in 2006."What happened to the 'Pull together, win together?'" asked Daniels, voicing a sentiment expressed by every worker interviewed. "We sacrificed a lot," she said."Their bonuses came out of our pockets," said Mike Morales, a 24-year ground worker who says he still makes $2 an hour less than he did before the 2003 pay cut.The American employees concede they were very well paid before 2003 and, by the standards of many other workers in society, remain well paid.American officials say the average pilot makes about $148,000 a year in wages, plus health and pension benefits. The average flight attendant earns about $49,000 a year.Horton has said American has a big labor cost disadvantage, about $800 million a year, compared with competitors United Continental and Delta airlines. Those carriers slashed labor costs in Chapter 11 reorganizations since 2003.But the concessions the unions granted to keep American out of bankruptcy in 2003 went beyond just a simple wage cut or working a couple of more days each month.For pilots, there was an across-the-board 23 percent cut. Many were forced to fly different planes, which meant another pay cut. Captains were bumped down to first officers, and first officers were bumped to less desirable routes and planes.Thorson, an MD-80 pilot, said that after reassignment, bumping and pay cuts, he took about an $80,000 a year cut in compensation the first year following the 2003 contract restructuring.Now, eight years later, American appears likely to dump its pilots' pension fund on the government-run Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. Thorson and many other older pilots will likely see their generous retirement payments cut nearly in half.For Daniels, who had left the Air Force only four years earlier to join American when the 2003 crisis hit, the changes moved her from being a first officer based in Dallas-Fort Worth, with regular time at home, to being put on the reserve list. That meant the mother of a 1-year-old was on call 20 to 21 days a month and working most weekends and holidays."My quality of life took a huge hit," Daniels said. In the past eight years she has been based at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport three times, Chicago twice and then San Francisco, which American has closed as a base. Now single, she recently moved to Colorado Springs to be near her parents and brother so they can take care of her son when she flies. She commutes to DFW."I find it kind of ironic," she says, "that I could go back to the Air Force and I would get a very nice pay increase."American filed for bankruptcy protection Nov. 29 after failing to reach a new contract with the Allied Pilots Association, its pilots union. But the flight attendants and ground workers don't blame the pilots."I think we're all pretty much on the same page," said Smajstrla, the flight attendant. "We're here to do whatever it takes to make this company successful. That's our commitment." But for that to happen, the employees say they believe there will have to be big changes in American's management and its approach to business and people.Some recent changes in American's leadership ranks, Poole said, have given him some reason for optimism. The chief pilot and top supervisors at American's hubs are all now active pilots who know the airline's operations, though Poole said too many managers aren't involved enough with the people they supervise.All these employees said they're lucky to have good jobs. Pilots live to fly. The flight attendants like what they do. But the glamour of the past, as portrayed in the television series Pan Am, is long gone."I've wanted to fly since I was 6 years old," Daniels said, recalling being stuck in traffic in Los Angeles and watching planes land at Los Angeles International Airport. But now she's usually gone overnights and will be working Christmas and New Year's.With American facing more travails, it's no longer the dream job Daniels envisioned."My son says he doesn't want to work for an airline, because he wants to be home weekends and Christmas."Bob Cox, 817-390-7723Twitter: @bobcoxict

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/24/3617490/american-airlines-workers-dont.html#my-headlines-default#storylink=cpy
I've never felt resentment for the pilots. You had two choices the way I see it. You can give it up voluntarily or you can make them take it. I think we have gave a enough. Now we wait.
 
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I've never felt resentment for the pilots. You had two choices the way I see it. You can give it up voluntarily or you can make them take it. I think we have gave a enough. Now we wait.

Exactly, there has been alot of banter back and forth about the mechanics t/a that got shot down and for me atleast the t/a was a concession and after all that has happened I for one simply was not going to give them anymore they can take it but that was the only way they will get it from me.
 
Exactly, there has been alot of banter back and forth about the mechanics t/a that got shot down and for me atleast the t/a was a concession and after all that has happened I for one simply was not going to give them anymore they can take it but that was the only way they will get it from me.



I agree AApitbull,If they get carried away i'm packing my tool's no matter the outcome....I'm just waiting on the lawyers, if it's worth it to stay I might. This might very well end up like Pan Am.... Tempers are already like the nuke plant in Japan... one little wave it's going to be bad.
 
Exactly, there has been alot of banter back and forth about the mechanics t/a that got shot down and for me atleast the t/a was a concession and after all that has happened I for one simply was not going to give them anymore they can take it but that was the only way they will get it from me.
I watched the contract process for time since being employed at American (1990) and it was nothing more than "what do we have to offer the old farts so they'll screw over those just coming into the company" - that is no way to manage one's "most important assets", making one class of employee a second class citizen. This has been going on during each so-called "contract negotiation" period since then.

As stated in the "quit smoking" ads of a few years ago, "This stops with me".
 
Gotta love those "I will not concede to giving up a little less, so they can steal, cheat, pilferage, and rape me out of a whole lot more."

Almost like standing in a room full of people with a gun to your own head screaming "One more step, and stupid get's it!!"

Let's just see how this all plays out and see what everyone ends up with.

A concession is a concession and a lowering of your standard of living is a lowering of your standard of living.

Many are gamblers. and gambling with your own financial status is one thing, gambling with another's is a thief.

Be kind of hard to blame the TWU for this go around in concessions based on what has taken place so far.
We did at one time have historical data showing the TWU was leading us down the drain, now we have taken upon ourselves to lead that path.

And by the way, AA is also winning the public opinion battle to who the blame in this belongs. One little stroy here and there will not counter years of media manipulation.

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