AMR/APA might be nearing a deal!

[Mach85ER]

" sub-standard compensation for the A319 "

Hourly A319 rates:
Spirit: $164
Delta: $168
CAL: $150 (Negotiating)
Hawaiian B717: $ 162
SWA 737: $210

AA B737-800: $165

If the want USairways rates, go CHP 11 and turn their stock into confetti.

 

[Bob Owens]

Wow. That's all I can say. How can AA expect to have a successful conclusion to negotiations
with proposals like this. It's just not going to happened.
I have said it before and will say it again the only way AA employees will accept a concessionary
contract is if it's shoved down our throat by a bankruptcy judge.
In the mean time we need to hold on to what we have.

Why not tell the Judge the same thing we are telling the company?

You guys need to remember that the contract became amendable in 2008, so thats when the new deal starts.

 

[damajagua]

Why not tell the Judge the same thing we are telling the company?

We can't . A judge decision in this matters is final.

 

[FWAAA]

We can't . A judge decision in this matters is final.

Silly you. Bob's talking about telling the bankruptcy judge to shove it and not working, daring the judge to jail the union leaders and fine the unions and employees. Like his hero the Irish communist would have done.

 

[Bob Owens]

We can't . A judge decision in this matters is final.

Wrong, the Judge can abrogate the agreement, not rewrite it. We need to fall back on what the the RLA says and get the support of the Labor movement and bring this BS to a head. 2003-05 may not have been the time, but now there is a growing intolerance of corporate greed. The NWA AFA only brought it halfway before agreeing to new terms.

 

[eolesen]

You guys getting the support of the labor movement probably has less of a chance of being successful as "Occupy Wall Street" has for reforming the banking system...

 

[Buck]

You guys getting the support of the labor movement probably has less of a chance of being successful as "Occupy Wall Street" has for reforming the banking system...

The labor movement is busy with the OWS, trying to get new members in the years to come. There might be some members of labor who believe the message of the OWS ( big banks ripping the commoners off ) however the big labor does have an opportunity to score bug here, especially if the sitting president retains that seat.

 

[Hopeful]

No deal! Talking going sour!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-12/american-airlines-pilots-union-says-talks-end-for-week-without-agreement.html?cmpid=yhoo

 

[Mach85ER]

You guys getting the support of the labor movement probably has less of a chance of being successful as "Occupy Wall Street" has for reforming the banking system...

You mean I wasted my money buying a Che T-shirt?

 

[Buck]

You mean I wasted my money buying a Che T-shirt?

You can exchange it at any TWU hall.

 

[odie01]

A or B SuperFluff

http://aanegotiations.com/default.asp

 

[Mach85ER]

$3.60 a day increase in Per Diem!!!!!!!!!!

Manhattan here I come!

Where can I get a "YES" ballot? 😛

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

Pay Proposal
The union said American offered a 3.21 percent raise in the first year, taken as a lump sum, a structural rate increase or a combination, followed by three annual boosts of 1 percent each. Pilots sought a 10 percent signing bonus, followed by 7 percent raises each of the next three years.
“I don’t see us moving off that figure,” Hoban said. “It’s a pretty reasonable offer.”


No raise for eight years and that is the best they can do. FU PAY ME :angry:

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

"As our competitors have consolidated,we are now the third largest network carrier.We would like to expand our network in the Northeast.However,we face slot constraints,so we cannot add flying in peak demand times without cutting flying in the same time window.As a result we can not grow our Northeastern operations without domestic codesharing."


Wow.

Expand the network in the Northeast? We already fly to anywhere you want to go, as long as it is ORD,MIA or DFW.

Is someone in route planning having a flickering lightbulb moment?

They chose to fiddle whilst Rome burned, not us.

 

[Maark767]

Pay Proposal
The union said American offered a 3.21 percent raise in the first year, taken as a lump sum, a structural rate increase or a combination, followed by three annual boosts of 1 percent each. Pilots sought a 10 percent signing bonus, followed by 7 percent raises each of the next three years.
“I don’t see us moving off that figure,” Hoban said. “It’s a pretty reasonable offer.”



No raise for eight years and that is the best they can do. FU PAY ME :angry:

I'm no company guy by no means but the idea of us getting this kick ass raise just ain't going to happen. Sure AA might come up a bit on the raises but with the world economy being in the toilet, dont look for a huge raise.