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AMR neeeds $$$$$$$$$$

Ya know, the morons at Reuters can't even write a 200 word article and get the facts correct. In the article, the idiot reporter writes:

But the company said the availability of financing is jeopardized by its level of indebtedness -- it had $16.3 billion in net debt at the end of 2006 -- and by historically weak revenues, high fuel prices and low credit ratings.

The net debt is actually only $13.4 billion at the end of 2006; the figure of $16.3 billion was the net debt at the end of 2005. In Reuters' haste to scoop other media outlets, they couldn't even take the time to get the basic facts correct from this year's 10-K.

I've already sent an email to these dumbasses asking them to either assign an editor who will do their job or to hire reporters who can read financial statements.
 
Ya know, the morons at Reuters can't even write a 200 word article and get the facts correct. In the article, the idiot reporter writes:
The net debt is actually only $13.4 billion at the end of 2006; the figure of $16.3 billion was the net debt at the end of 2005. In Reuters' haste to scoop other media outlets, they couldn't even take the time to get the basic facts correct from this year's 10-K.

I've already sent an email to these dumbasses asking them to either assign an editor who will do their job or to hire reporters who can read financial statements.

That one got me rolling on the floor laughing.
 
More posturing, APA throws out the 'Strike' bomb and the company turns around and throws out the 'Insufficent Liquidity' bomb.


Who are they kidding, AMR has major aircraft replacement needs and to land an order that size Boeing and or Airbus will jump through flaming hoops with favorable terms.
 
LOL! Flaming hoops, eh? What about hoops spraying acid? Would they do it then? 🙂

More posturing, APA throws out the 'Strike' bomb and the company turns around and throws out the 'Insufficent Liquidity' bomb.
Who are they kidding, AMR has major aircraft replacement needs and to land an order that size Boeing and or Airbus will jump through flaming hoops with favorable terms.
 
For those of us who work for AA, or work(ed) for AA, this is NOTHING new.

Which is why I'm always ASTOUNDED, when non-employees, who frequent these boards, are FLABBERGHASTED at the (AA) workers ATTITUDES.(FWAAA I'm exempting you, from my statement above)

It's the SAME OLD ####....Over and Over and Over again.

"IT WILL NEVER CHANGE"............."NEVER"

One side cries "poor mouth"......, the other side gets an ATTITUDE !!

(Anyone care to make a liar out of me) ???????????????

NH/BB's
 
If it makes you feel better, even those of us who were formerly "management" employees pretty much feel the same way.

The airline industry is my real passion, but I just couldn't take the DRAMA!
 
For those of us who work for AA, or work(ed) for AA, this is NOTHING new.

Which is why I'm always ASTOUNDED, when non-employees, who frequent these boards, are FLABBERGHASTED at the (AA) workers ATTITUDES.(FWAAA I'm exempting you, from my statement above)

It's the SAME OLD ####....Over and Over and Over again.

"IT WILL NEVER CHANGE"............."NEVER"

One side cries "poor mouth"......, the other side gets an ATTITUDE !!

(Anyone care to make a liar out of me) ???????????????

NH/BB's


Don't you mean the other side gets an AAtitude? Surprised you missed that. Nobody at AA can ever seem to pAAss up the chAAnce to put two AA's where only one is needed in some sick AAttempt to rAAm AA up our AA**.
 
Don't you mean the other side gets an AAtitude? Surprised you missed that. Nobody at AA can ever seem to pAAss up the chAAnce to put two AA's where only one is needed in some sick AAttempt to rAAm AA up our AA**.

Oh, there is no attempt to ram AA up or A$$es! It has succeeded.
The TWU spreads our cheeks to make it easier for the company to rAAm us!
 
More posturing, APA throws out the 'Strike' bomb and the company turns around and throws out the 'Insufficent Liquidity' bomb.
Who are they kidding, AMR has major aircraft replacement needs and to land an order that size Boeing and or Airbus will jump through flaming hoops with favorable terms.

Not to burst anyone's conspiracy theory bubble, but the financial warnings written in the 10-K have NOTHING to do with communicating with AA's unions.

Every 10-K since at least 2002 has contained almost identical language, and every one in the future will probably contain similar language. It's not all about you. If you look at other airlines' 10-Ks, they all say basically the same thing. These paragraphs are written by lawyers whose concers are avoiding lawsuits under the '34 Act, not with scaring the represented employees.

Sure, AA may come to the employees and ask for more concessions, but the 10-K didn't do that.

Now back to your regularly scheduled conspiracy theories.
 
Maybe if you actually worked here instead of sitting in the cheering section you'd have a different perspective.

When we see something like that release which contains statements like this...

the parent of the world's largest airline said it may require more cash to manage its debt and pension obligations in the next several years.

We contrast that with the self congratulatory crap on JetNet about how the company has contributed XXX millions of dollars, far above the required minimum to the defined benefit pension plans.


This company trips over itself to pick up a dime, while it loses millions with its asinine decisions. :down:
 
Maybe if you actually worked here instead of sitting in the cheering section you'd have a different perspective.

If I worked there I don't think I'd play the "poor me - I'm the victim - AA's out to get me" card every time AA complied with the Securities Act of 1934 by filing its 10-K.

When we see something like that release which contains statements like this...

the parent of the world's largest airline said it may require more cash to manage its debt and pension obligations in the next several years.

We contrast that with the self congratulatory crap on JetNet about how the company has contributed XXX millions of dollars, far above the required minimum to the defined benefit pension plans.

Funny you should mention JetNet, the employee intranet site. Its target audience consists of employees, not investors, so its material isn't perpetually doom and gloom, like the statements in Item 1A, Risk Factors, of the 10-K. You sound angry that AMR contributed more to the plans than the legal minimum - what I find odd about that is that so many others who post here are angry that the plans aren't fully funded. Yet another example of AMR being damned if it does, damned if it doesn't. Could you employees make up your mind on this one?

The 10-K's Risk Factors language (picked up by the Reuters story in the OP as if it were a new thing) reads a lot like the warning stickers found on new ladders or the warning stencils painted on your ground equipment (eg "PINCH POINT" in huge letters on the belt loaders). The OP misinterprets/falls for the news story and you end being played. Show a little skepticism of the media, why don'tcha?

What I find funniest about your pavlovian response to the 10-K's language is that the entire premise of this thread rests upon an assumption that Arpey and the others wanted to print all of that doom and gloom in an effort to condition the employees for more givebacks.

If you'd ever counseled the executives in writing the 10-K (as I have at other companies as outside securities counsel), you'd know that these Risk Factors are about the last thing management wants to say; if it weren't for the damned lawyers, executives would trim this item to a sentence or two. Far from proudly trying to scare the beleagured employees like you, these Risk Factors are usually included over the objections of the kicking and screaming senior executives.

But go ahead and fall for it every time if you must.

As to your last sentence, I fully agree with you. Lots of stupid decisions by management.
 
The 10-K's Risk Factors language (picked up by the Reuters story in the OP as if it were a new thing) reads a lot like the warning stickers found on new ladders or the warning stencils painted on your ground equipment (eg "PINCH POINT" in huge letters on the belt loaders).

My favorite is the warning sticker at the entrance to Disneyland that tells me I might get cancer from dangerous chemicals in detectable amounts.
 

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