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another great letter from a us airways east tech.
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A decertification vote only benefits management.
They don't need your money. They have enough.
They don't need your money. They have enough.
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Albert we in PHX would be happy to welcome you to the ibt, that was a great letter and I'm sure you know our favorite stores clerk mr 700 he is just full of it.
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That's a FACT........on both counts!!
I don't recall the AMFA being mentioned even once in Albert's transcript. The truth is, that when everything is put on paper about what has transpired over the years at UAIR, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it's less than kosher. Disguise it any way you like. But when all is said and done, a pig is a pig.
Albert was a good sheetmetal man. He spoke his mind without hesitation but he also worked, unlike a lot of other slackers in that joint. I have admiration for Albert and his courage to voice his views regardless of the repercussions from the IAM.
Freedom of speech is what it's all about. However, some would like to silence the voices of those in opposition to the regime in any way they can. Now tell me that isn't the truth??
Which ever way you choose, I wish everyone the best of luck.
I don't think you ever did a sheetmetal job with the man did you or any wrench turning on any aircraft, so how do you know what kind of work he did! In the future why don't you stick to talking about something you know alot about like PICKING up turds!
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7 are you slamming an IAM brother? Shame on you. So you can tell all this just by delivering parts? How many aircraft have you personally fixed and returned to service? 🙂
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Dell I know where you are coming from - having been IAM before I know how much it bugs them when they find out that some of the members have a backbone and a mind of thier own. Even more so when they use them.
no its nothing of that sort....one persons opinion doesn't speak for all......his perception of things is through his eyes only.sure some see it as he does too...but not the majority and thats fact.
fact is and fact has been time and time twisted and perverted for IBT's sake trying to win votes for bullcrap and fortuneately myself and some others have time and time again supplied factual information gleaned mostly from the IBT websites that time and time again has exposed the lies and false facts that IBT members misrepresented here. 😉
Al good letter.
Wasnt there also something about USAIR paying the IAM a sum of money "to cover the expense of conducting the concessions campaign"? As I recall it was in the millions of dollars wasnt it?
But in all fairness to the IAM, other than the retroactive concessions, most of the other concessions were TWU "firsts".
The fact is the TWU has been undermining the IAM for years by giving AA industry leading concessions. The IAM for their part refused to publically bash the TWU for their transgressions because of the AFL-CIO. In other words they put AFL-CIO affiliation ahead of the members welfare.
Maybe now that the TWU is going after your Fleet coworkers we will see a little mud fly. But its too little too late.
The IBT has not been a major player in this industry. Change is definately needed. The IBT has done a good job for mechanics, look at UPS. Why not give them a shot?
Unions leaders like those in the IAM and TWU cling to the same structure that was in place under a regulated market.They resist any real change. They sit back, collect their six figure salaries and demand that THE MEMBERS change. They say things like "The membership must participate". But they do not provide leadership and tell them what to participate in. Nor do they tell the members what participation would accomplish. Their response is typically that they should not have to tell the members every little thing, so in other words they want the members to go on their own, while still paying for leadership.
Six years ago I brought this flawed structure up in a letter to AFL-CIO head John Sweeney. I told him that we needed to restructure the labor movement in this industry which was, and is factured. There is no real coherence to it. It was not structured either as industrial unionism-where everyone in the company or industry is in the same union, or craft unionism, where workers are organized along craft lines.
It was/is a mish mash which can only be catagorized as business unionism.
Mechanics in one company represented by a union that represents only dispatchers in another company and fleet workers in yet another company and flight attendants in yet another company-its dizzying trying to figure out what union reprsents any particular class of worker or can be considered an airline union since most of them represent other industries as well. The only union members that benifited from this fractured structure was/is those who went into the union as employees of the unions.
Management couldnt ask for a better structure than the one thats in place.
Sweeneys office was very responsive to the letter and encouraged me to pursue an internal reorganization of the airline workers in the AFL-CIO. They said they favored such a reorginization but could not assist unless the leaders of the organizations brought it forward. None did. Later a representative from the AFL-CIO admitted that the unions involved-AFL-CIO affiliated unions would never agree to anything like that (reorganizing)because none of them would be willing to give up dues paying members to make it happen.
Grossly ineffecient and ineffective,the leaders repeatedly blamed the members for the demise of the unions ability to make gains for the members. They repeated it so often that it eventually became accepted as truth. They could not blame the real culprit-the structure, because they would in fact be promoting the destruction of the structure that gives them six figure salaries, generous perks and an escape from the floor.Most of these guys had limited education and skills yet were living like corporate executives. Do you really think they are going to do anything to disrupt the status quo, even if the status quo is destroying the lives of thousands of workers?
The fact is that as long as we remain in the same unions in the same structure that told us flat out they could do nothing to prevent what happened to us we can not expect things to ever get better.
To me we have no choice, we must do what should have been done 25 years ago. We must develop a coherent labor strategy for the industry and the only way to do that is to get us all into one union. The only union that has the resources is the IBT. The TWU is about the worst choice you could make, staying with the IAM is like saying "Thank you sir can I have another" to management.
Here is what I propose.
We all get into the Teamsters.
Once all the unionized carriers are in the Teamsters we agressively unionize the LCCs.
We must develope strategies that reduce our dependance on the company.
We establish industry seniority.
We establish an independant pension annuity system like the trades have.
We eliminate progressions. One rate for each classification of worker, whether you are a new hire or a 30 year veteran. This would make veterans more marketable. If a company is going to pay the same rate why hire a kid out of school who knows nothing and leave an experienced worker on the street?
Independant pensions and industry seniority would make it much easier to organize those in non-union workplaces and make BK less effective at gaining concessions. Why give concessions if you can simply move over to a carrier that is successful while paying the prevailing rate? You would carry your seniority for bidding and still have your pension.You work hard as a reflection of your professionalism and not out of some displaced "loyalty" to a corporation.
Even if those goals are a little far fetched why not reach for the stars instead of being content to wallow in the gutter? The fact is the first move is up to us as airline workers. In a way those leaders who blame us have it right. It is our fault. It is our fault for tolerating their incompetance and finacing a flawed structure that benifits the airlines and corrput union leaders. Lets accept accountability by voting for change. The only option for change at this time is the IBT.
no albert....we just assumed you were working for the IBT
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If these are lies or distortions then you and 7 get together and give your side of it. 🙂
Good job AG.
don't have to,its been proven here in this forum with sources provided on your website that disputed what you and others claimed. 😉
