Another Obamacare Success Story
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http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-elections/info-03-2012/myths-canada-health-care.html
Myth #4: Canada has long wait times because it has a single-payer system.
The wait times that Canada might experience are not caused by its being a single-payer system.
Wait times arent like cancer. We know what causes wait times; we know how to fix them. Spend more money.
Our single-payer system, which is called Medicare (see above), manages not to have the wait times issue that Canadas does. There must, therefore, be some other reason for the wait times. There is, of course.
In 1966, Canada implemented a single-payer health care system, which is also known as Medicare. Since then, as a country, Canadians have made a conscious decision to hold down costs. One of the ways they do that is by limiting supply, mostly for elective things, which can create wait times. Their outcomes are otherwise comparable to ours.
Please understand, the wait times could be overcome. Canadians could spend more. They dont want to. We can choose to dislike wait times in principle, but they are a byproduct of Canadas choice to be fiscally conservative.
Yes, they chose this. In a rational world, those who are concerned about health care costs and what they mean to the economy might respect that course of action. But instead, they attack the system.
Myth #4: Canada has long wait times because it has a single-payer system.
The wait times that Canada might experience are not caused by its being a single-payer system.
Wait times arent like cancer. We know what causes wait times; we know how to fix them. Spend more money.
Our single-payer system, which is called Medicare (see above), manages not to have the wait times issue that Canadas does. There must, therefore, be some other reason for the wait times. There is, of course.
In 1966, Canada implemented a single-payer health care system, which is also known as Medicare. Since then, as a country, Canadians have made a conscious decision to hold down costs. One of the ways they do that is by limiting supply, mostly for elective things, which can create wait times. Their outcomes are otherwise comparable to ours.
Please understand, the wait times could be overcome. Canadians could spend more. They dont want to. We can choose to dislike wait times in principle, but they are a byproduct of Canadas choice to be fiscally conservative.
Yes, they chose this. In a rational world, those who are concerned about health care costs and what they mean to the economy might respect that course of action. But instead, they attack the system.
You will be opting out of MediCare, I take it?
Buying your own insurance, or just paying cash for your doctors and hospitals?
I am sure you will, since you are opposed to government involvement, and are a man of great integrity
Buying your own insurance, or just paying cash for your doctors and hospitals?
I am sure you will, since you are opposed to government involvement, and are a man of great integrity
townpete
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Ifly2 said:
Another lie you fell for
How the AARP Made $2.8 Billion By Supporting Obamacare's Cuts to Medicare
Like i said, you make this too easy....
lol
Conservatives used to believe in The Divine Right of Kings and a lot of other nonsensical crap too.
It just takes some folk longer to evolve.
(That is a science thing too. Pretty easy to find. Linked to a major gland in the brain stem, and to that whole fear thing...)
It just takes some folk longer to evolve.
(That is a science thing too. Pretty easy to find. Linked to a major gland in the brain stem, and to that whole fear thing...)
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Ifly2 said:
A successful program is easily measured. It either works for everyone, or it doesn't.
Clearly its failing, and has from the start.
That's what you get when you have career politicians getting involved in social engineering.
So spin and sputter all you want, the proof is self evident my friend.
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Ifly2 said:
Single payer I think will be a good thing.
I have never understood how we as a nation think that companies making money off of peoples misery is a good thing. It is not in the patients self interest. Why do we accept this?
"A successful program is easily measured. It either works for everyone, or it doesn't. "
Who made up that baloney?
That is nothing more than creating a definition that makes one's point.
ACA is far from perfect, no argument.
That is what happens when you let the Insurance Industry, in this case, write legislation governing the Insurance Industry.
Which was btw a core Reagan-ism. "Who better to regulate industry than those in the industry?"
Then, with W, we get industry regulated by those who are literally sleeping with those whom they are supposed to regulate...
Couldn't make this crap up on acid...
Who made up that baloney?
That is nothing more than creating a definition that makes one's point.
ACA is far from perfect, no argument.
That is what happens when you let the Insurance Industry, in this case, write legislation governing the Insurance Industry.
Which was btw a core Reagan-ism. "Who better to regulate industry than those in the industry?"
Then, with W, we get industry regulated by those who are literally sleeping with those whom they are supposed to regulate...
Couldn't make this crap up on acid...
