Arbitration

[NevadaHP]

I seriously believe a job action is necessary no matter what it costs, the company has gone too far. OHH and just another note, dont be surprised if the company slams the IAM contract on the west employees, to outsource and combine dual cities for more cost saving while this plays out in court for the next 2:weeks/months/years?

 

[PITbull]

Just heard from a member of the negotiating committee that the arbitration case has now been postponed ............

So gee now the company will mire this in red tape and continue....

Wonder how they feel now that the shoes on the other foot. It looks like they may lose this and actually have to give the workers what they deserve...........

I hope the IAM prevails. I recall when the IAM prevailed on the outsourcing issue in 2003...the company went into BK to get out of that issue and pensions capturing an extra billion in cost savings.

USAirways can't hide behind any bankrutpcies anymore.
More power to the IAM members!

 

[Harry Callahan]

All I keep thinking as I read this and other related threads is "Christmas Meltdown".

I know what the report said and I happen to believe it. I also was down on the ramp the Monday prior to Thanksgiving that same year.

US was freaking out about a potential job action and had 4 of us visit and talk about things from a customer perspective. It was very interesting.

All I'll say is this time around, If I'm on the ramp it will be to deliver picket signs, not to help US Management.

Bob, thank you for your support on this one.

 

[lgwcalling]

It used to be that companies were corporate citizens, a part of the community, state, and the country. From the janitors to the owners to the customers we shared a common bond. That bond is now a memory. The people that own (not common stockholders) and control corporations in this country are from here and around the world but their interests are purely an unjustifiable level of greed.

I used to think those anti-globalists were nuts 10-12 years ago. Millions of illegal immigrants in, millions of good jobs gone, the rule of law ignored from the top to the bottom, our way of life destroyed from the inside out......maybe they were onto something.

Anyway, sorry to rant, but nothing any company does anymore really suprises me.

You are correct sir or madam!

And, as surely as Communism failed, so will Capitalism if corporations do not relearn how to be good corporate citizens. As the French Revolution taught the world, the masses have a boiling point.

"Let them eat Little Debbies!" - The snack cake for today's revolutionary!

 

[av60]

This has pissed me off 100 times more than the revote in BK 1. I'm gonna have to triple my alcohol intake for saturday evening. Usairways has once again shown their true colors, and it aint red, white & blue. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

here here

 

[MAAMARCH04]

"Let them eat Little Debbies!" - The snack cake for today's revolutionary!

TOO FUNNY!!

Can you imagine a corporate sponsor to the demise of Capitalism?

 

[allstrike]

What are the chances US Airways has a case? Stalling? Last ditch effort? The Company agreed and picked a date for the Arbitration.
http://www.donlinrecano.net/dr201/mwc/04-1...004426-0000.pdf

So much for the railway labor act,The company was bargaining in good faith,were they not.Can you say strike vote...naw no body can afford it.

Oh I get,beat us down till theres no more fight left,then pull out the yellow water hose and let us have it.

I think its time to get all the IAM groups together for a good solidarity meeting.....enough of this.

 

[NevadaHP]

amen brother

 

[700UW]

You are not in Section 6 Negotiations, you cannot strike.

The only way you can strike if the company violates the CBA and the courts declare it a major dispute.

 

[NevadaHP]

WE CAN WILD CAT, F THE FINES, WE NEED TO STAND UP, EVERYTIME THE COMPANY IS WARNED OF A STRIKE THEY PREPARE FOR IT LOOK AT NW MECH.

 

[700UW]

If you wildcat you will be terminated and the IAM and you personally can be fined millions.

So if you are terminated and you will not get your job back, what have you accomplished?

You can do more damage if you work by the book, exactly to rule.

Go ask the APA what happened to them at AA.

 

[fanlube]

Now is probably not the best time for the company to be pulling these shaningans, not with the sceptre change over and all the new maintenance changes taking place on the east, sceptre is a new system for the east guys and frankly the training hasn't been that great and their are alot of paperwork errors still needing to be addressed. Just remember the company writes the paperwork its your job to follow it! If it calls for a certain bolt you make damn sure you get that certain bolt otherwise let management know you need an EA if our JailBird CEO wants to play games then let the games begin!! All you guys on the East know how our paperwork is, just follow it to the letter and everything will be fine!

 

[Tim Nelson]

You are not in Section 6 Negotiations, you cannot strike.

The only way you can strike if the company violates the CBA and the courts declare it a major dispute.

doesn't this beg the question as to why then isn't it the IAM in court? I mean this change of control grievance is a major and serious violation, right? Why aren't they ever pro-active? Ironically but not surprisingly it is the company going to court. The IAM should have went to the mat for this grievance and been vigilant in the court system, proclaiming this violation to be of the utmost serious nature. But it's been two years and NOTHING.

My bet is that they will 'panty up' and sign a deal by using the prior sacrifices of fleet service to pay for more members.

Arbitration = $439 Big ones for Fleet, already bought and paid for in the current contract. Over $22hr and big fat retro checks.

But if the IAM does what myself and others know it will do: It will concede with another concessionary contract and reduce wages down to $19hr BUT gain alot more members.

To that I can only say fleet should hope for a merger in which they can once and for all get rid of the inept union.

In the meantime, IMO, the IAM will be in 'serious' violation of duty of fair representation with significant monetary damages to fleet. I would be the first to pursue or organize this avenue, if it happened to me, and sue the INTL.

regards,

 

[700UW]

There is nothing the Courts could do to favor the IAM, it is not a major dispute under the RLA, it is a minor dispute.

No court would rule this is a major dispute as the CBA was not changed by the company.

That is what the arbitration process is for.

Since you were not a M&R Employee I would not expect you to understand, the airbus outsourcing was first ruled a major dispute then reversed upon appeal and sent to arbitration.

If you are under a CBA, you must follow the grievance procedure instead of going to court.

Why would you want to waste the members dues money on something that would have no bearing on the outcome of the process?

 

[Tim Nelson]

There is nothing the Courts could do to favor the IAM, it is not a major dispute under the RLA, it is a minor dispute.

No court would rule this is a major dispute as the CBA was not changed by the company.

That is what the arbitration process is for.

Since you were not a M&R Employee I would not expect you to understand, the airbus outsourcing was first ruled a major dispute then reversed upon appeal and sent to arbitration.

If you are under a CBA, you must follow the grievance procedure instead of going to court.

Why would you want to waste the members dues money on something that would have no bearing on the outcome of the process?

If it's not a major dispute then agreed.
But save the IAM lingo about saving or protecting the members dues money. I've been to enough IAM conventions to know how dues money gets liquified into "Booze". The IAM doesn't give one rip on the members dues other than making sure there is enough for big fat salaries and ballroom party conventions with booze.

regards,