Aviation Unions

[Devils Advocate]

What are unions good for?

Having worked for both union & non-union companies, I like the non-union company much better.

Unions..
1. Reward employees largely based on 'seniority' .. This I really hate. Why? Because there are a bunch of folks out there that seem to feel like the company owes them something, they are lazy, unmotivated & honestly hurting the company more than helping it.

2. Unions always have to be the 'best' .. What? Company 'X' just got a **% pay increase we need that plus....

3. Unions were originally set-up to be a 'voice for the common worker', to provide better working coniditons, medical assistance, etc... Unions are not the 'voice' of the worker.. Yeah, everbody votes and usually it reads like 95% of company A workers voted to strike.. Blah, Blah.. But, when the chips are down, the elected board officals can override the 'VOTE'. It is all politics & not about the members.

4. Stirke pay is a joke.

5. Unions tend to be allot of hot air, yelling a heck of alot of smack BUT, when D-Day arrives 99.9% of the time they cave and sign the contract.

Again,

What are unions good for?

 

[gatemech]

The only thing unions are good for now is keeping the a** kissing out of the picture at time of lay off.

 

[freightflyer]

UNIONS have LOST MUCH GROUND, especially since the UNION BUSTING TACTICS since the days of the 1981 PATCO/FAA LABOR DISPUTE.

What a great place it would be to work for any Company that treated ALL EMPLOYEES EQUALLY and FAIRLY.
The questions posted below indicate that you would rather have a situation where GREED and UNFAIR LABOR POLICY would dictate WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN an employee or groups of employees would get "SPECIAL TREATMENT", and not advancement based on the idea of tenure and Seniority.

What are unions good for?

Having worked for both union & non-union companies, I like the non-union company much better.

Unions..
1. Reward employees largely based on 'seniority' .. This I really hate. Why? Because there are a bunch of folks out there that seem to feel like the company owes them something, they are lazy, unmotivated & honestly hurting the company more than helping it.

2. Unions always have to be the 'best' .. What? Company 'X' just got a **% pay increase we need that plus....

3. Unions were originally set-up to be a 'voice for the common worker', to provide better working coniditons, medical assistance, etc... Unions are not the 'voice' of the worker.. Yeah, everbody votes and usually it reads like 95% of company A workers voted to strike.. Blah, Blah.. But, when the chips are down, the elected board officals can override the 'VOTE'. It is all politics & not about the members.

4. Stirke pay is a joke.

5. Unions tend to be allot of hot air, yelling a heck of alot of smack BUT, when D-Day arrives 99.9% of the time they cave and sign the contract.

Again,

What are unions good for?

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[TomM]

3. Unions were originally set-up to be a 'voice for the common worker', to provide better working conditions, medical assistance, etc...

Is this even relevant nowadays? Employment conditions today are very different then they were 80 years ago.