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Ohare offensive American vs United




American officially opened the Chicago hub in 1982, and quickly added international flights to strengthen the operation, said Robert L. Crandall, former chairman of American who was appointed president and chief operating officer in 1980 and is generally credited with American's increased focus here.

"When you look at relative success of the two airlines at Chicago, there isn't any single measure you can look at that tells the whole story, but the share of the local market is a very important part," Mr. Crandall said. "We were always slightly handicapped because United had more slots ... but we built our success on our own excellence and with a focus on a quality operation."

Some experts agree that American is making a strong play at O'Hare despite running a smaller operation.

A study by Unisys R2A earlier this year said American outperforms United in revenue per seat flown on competitive O'Hare routes.

In theory, revenue should match market share, but the research showed American earning a higher percentage of revenue than its market share would indicate.


Ohare offensive American vs United
 
When given the choice between an RJ and a MD82/3 or 737-800, I can tell you I would book on the bigger every single time. I'm sure many business passengers will as well. So as UAL puts more and more RJ's out of ORD, you will see more and more business travel move to AA.

When all else is the same, (fare, schedule) then size of plane will count.

ORD-STL 14 Sept On UAL
5 RJ's
1 737

ORD-STL 14 Sept On AA
7 MD80/83
3 757

Your choice! I know what I would book! It sure would not be an RJ! Nor do I think the business traveler who wants to upgrade would either.

JMO
 
scuba said:
It sure would not be an RJ!
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If you're over 5'11", you would think twice about booking on an RJ. Can you say neck pain??? :blink:
 
scuba said:
When given the choice between an RJ and a MD82/3 or 737-800, I can tell you I would book on the bigger every single time. I'm sure many business passengers will as well. So as UAL puts more and more RJ's out of ORD, you will see more and more business travel move to AA.

When all else is the same, (fare, schedule) then size of plane will count.

ORD-STL 14 Sept On UAL
5 RJ's
1 737

ORD-STL 14 Sept On AA
7 MD80/83
3 757

Your choice! I know what I would book! It sure would not be an RJ! Nor do I think the business traveler who wants to upgrade would either.

JMO
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Obviously AA would fly bigger a/c between two hubs. Use another example.
 
FlyUs said:
Obviously AA would fly bigger a/c between two hubs. Use another example.
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OK. But I'm not really convinced that STL is still a hub for purposes of this city pair, but whatever.

ORD-IND

AA flies 4 MD-80s and 4 ER4s

UA flies 2 ER4s, 2 CR7s and one 733

AAdvantage AA on this route. More frequency and more mainline aircraft.

Or ORD-CLE.

AA flies 4 ERJs and 4 CR7s

UA flies 2 CR7s and one 733

AAdvantage AA on this route. Much more frequency trumps UA's lone mainline 733.

OTOH, plenty of examples of UA flying larger aircraft on other city pairs as well.
 
FWAAA said:
Or ORD-CLE.

AA flies 4 ERJs and 4 CR7s

UA flies 2 CR7s and one 733

AAdvantage AA on this route. Much more frequency trumps UA's lone mainline 733.

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Crikey, I remember flying 76s and DC-10s from ORD to CLE not more than 5/6 years ago. How things change. Out of curiosity, what are CO flying on the route?
 
SVQLBA said:
Crikey, I remember flying 76s and DC-10s from ORD to CLE not more than 5/6 years ago. How things change. Out of curiosity, what are CO flying on the route?
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D'Oh! My bad. Bad search - UA is actually the winner on this one by far:

UA is actually flying 4 CR7s, two 735s, one 733 and one 320.

Sorry about that.

Still, not that long ago, CLE was a UA hub.

CO is flying 7 ERJs on this route.
 
FWAAA said:
Or ORD-CLE.

AA flies 4 ERJs and 4 CR7s

UA flies 2 CR7s and one 733

AAdvantage AA on this route. Much more frequency trumps UA's lone mainline 733.

[post="299775"][/post]​

Actually, United has three 737's, an Airbus, plus four CRJ's from ORD to CLE, with three 737's, two Airbii, and three CRJ's from CLE to ORD in October. Looks like it's advantage United on this one. (October schedules)
 
...........and my 'thingie' is bigger than yours!
 

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