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Spoke to a few line cargo people at JFK. Looks like the smaller stations are being hit and the layoff notices have begun. There are a numer of JFK line cargo folks out the door. One station in particular, CLE is dropping to 23 flights a day and ALL line cargo people are laid off. WORLDWIDE SERVICES will now handle AA at CLE. They also said IAD, DCA, and BWI are being affected as AA consoldiates operations at those 3 stations. Also, it looks like AA is pushing to outsorce CABIN SERVICE completely. Remember, AA began by outsoucing cabin service OVERNIGHT cleaning.

More to come.......................
 
Worldwide, formerly AMR services and represented by the twu.

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2000/27n017.html

"Inc. In early 1999, AMR Services, Inc., was sold by the AMR Corporation to Castle Harlan, Inc. which changed the business entity's name to Worldwide Flight Services, Inc. Thereafter, Worldwide voluntarily recognized TWU and assumed the terms of the existing collective bargaining agreement. "

Worldwide provided signed TWU dues authorization cards and employee signature samples indicating majority support for TWU as the collective bargaining representative for Fleet Service Employees.
 
Hopeful said:
Spoke to a few line cargo people at JFK. Looks like the smaller stations are being hit and the layoff notices have begun. There are a numer of JFK line cargo folks out the door. One station in particular, CLE is dropping to 23 flights a day and ALL line cargo people are laid off. WORLDWIDE SERVICES will now handle AA at CLE. They also said IAD, DCA, and BWI are being affected as AA consoldiates operations at those 3 stations. Also, it looks like AA is pushing to outsorce CABIN SERVICE completely. Remember, AA began by outsoucing cabin service OVERNIGHT cleaning.

More to come.......................
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The twu would never outsource overnight cabin cleaners! What? They already have? Oh, OK. The twu will never outsource all cabin cleaners! The twu... leaders in outsourcing.

Here in SAN the overnight cabin cleaners, done by One Source, are driven like slaves. I'm told by one of the cleaners, one of two who speaks English well enough to understand, that they were promised 6 hours pay a night. But the supervisor doesn't allow for any breaks. They move from one a/c to the next till they are done. Usually they are done in 5 hours. They only get paid for 5.

The AA ramp acts as if nothing has changed. Except that most, if not all of the Ramp are at work when I leave at 0815 and are here when I return at 2145. How long does little, gless, yingst stay at work to make ends meet? Come on cio, dispense some more words of blind faith for the twu. Make sure you use your alias.
 
How well the twu represent Worldwide....Read this twu express story....

Florida Bill Ends Living Wage for Miami Airport Workers
espite the efforts of TWU, Miami-
Dade Mayor Alex Penelas and other
political and union leaders, Florida
Governor Jeb Bush signed a bill which
will sharply cut the pay of thousands of
workers at Miami International Airport.
The bill removes provisions in the
county’s “living wage†ordinance that
cover employees of permit holders, including
fueling firms and those that provide
baggage and food handlers. Left intact
are wage protections for employees
D of firms that do business directly with
the county.
Miami-Dade’s living wage ordinance
was extended to airport workers in the
wake of 9/11 because the county wanted
to reduce the turnover of workers in
“safety-sensitive†positions. The ordinance
requires double the federal minimum
wage of $5.15 per hour.
In a letter urging Governor Bush to
veto the wage-killing bill, TWU International
Vice President George Roberts
said, “Without the Living Wage (these
workers) will be paid minimum wage
with no health insurance or benefits.â€
He noted that livable wages benefit the
community as well as the worker, since
less public funds will be spent on welfare,
food stamps and health care.
At a press conference May 29, Miami-
Dade Mayor Penelas said it was unfair
to impose Senate Bill 54 on thousands
of employees at Miami International
Airport, noting that the “annual income
of the MIA workers is just over $20,000
which is rather low to support a family.â€
Mayor Penelas went on to say, “We are
gathered here today to urge Governor
Bush to veto SB 54.â€
State Senator Debbie Wasserman
Schulz, from Dade County, said, “There
is never an appropriate time to not pay
workers a decent wage,†adding that
“with heightened security, we shouldn’t
be pulling the rug from under workers
who are here keeping us safe.â€
Several members of Local 504 who
work for World Wide Service were on
hand to explain to the press that ending
the Living Wage would hurt union
workers as well. They said work would
be lost to non-union firms paying minimum
wage, eventually driving wages
down for everyone.
State Representative Manny Prieguez
said he was the only Republican sponsoring
an amendment to remove the
part of the bill that affects the employees
at the Miami International Airport. That
measure lost by five votes. State Rep.
Marcelo Llorente also urged a veto.
Fred Frost, South Florida AFL-CIO
President and a member of TWU Local
568, emphasized the human aspect of
the issue. “Miami is the poorest city in
the country — this is going to have an
adverse affect,†he said. “It’s about quality
of life†for these workers.
Building on



Why didn't the twu negotiate a living wage instead of trying to legislate one.
 
Ken MacTiernan said:
Here in SAN the overnight cabin cleaners, done by One Source, are driven like slaves. I'm told by one of the cleaners, one of two who speaks English well enough to understand, that they were promised 6 hours pay a night. But the supervisor doesn't allow for any breaks. They move from one a/c to the next till they are done. Usually they are done in 5 hours. They only get paid for 5.
[post="175704"][/post]​

Perfect! The ultimate Republican vision of the future.

Over at jetBlue, they don't even need cleaners, they "allow" the pilots and F/As to demonstrate their love of the company by doing the cleaning.

Gotta love non-union monkeys.
 
Local 504 is based in NY. Its the old Pan Am Local. When Pan Am disintegrated after several rounds of concessions the Loyal President of 504 Richie Bohm was taken care of by the International. Local 504 is one of the largest locals in the TWU now.

Local 562 rents space from Local 504.

When we were going though our concessions with the company Richie Bohm, Bob ? and Mike Bakala pulled me aside to try and tell me why we should accept concessions. I didnt buy it. These are the same scammers that told all the Pan Am workers to keep giving concessions till they day they closed the doors. The TWU just wanted to squeeze as much dues out as possible.In return the Pan Am guys have less seniority and earned less for more years thanks to the TWU.



I believe that the TWU also represents Triangle Services. The lowest paid workers on the airport.

The Fuelers of Ogden, who when they were Allied used to be teamsters. They made as much as mechanics. When they became Ogden and TWU their wages plummeted now they too are among thev lowest paid workers onm the airport.

If you want to find the lowest paid union workers anywhere in this industry all you have to do is look for the TWU logo.


So I guess since the work is going to the TWU its OK that AA guys are getting laid off. Little as head of the ATD is bound to those guys as much as he is to the AA guys who are getting laid off. Is he going to fight to get the work taken away from the Worldwide TWU guys and given back to the higher paid AA guys? Well that would be out of charecter for the TWU.
 
AMFAMAN said:
Worldwide, formerly AMR services and represented by the twu.

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2000/27n017.html

"Inc. In early 1999, AMR Services, Inc., was sold by the AMR Corporation to Castle Harlan, Inc. which changed the business entity's name to Worldwide Flight Services, Inc. Thereafter, Worldwide voluntarily recognized TWU and assumed the terms of the existing collective bargaining agreement. "

Worldwide provided signed TWU dues authorization cards and employee signature samples indicating majority support for TWU as the collective bargaining representative for Fleet Service Employees.
[post="175703"][/post]​


I guess that AMR told Worldwide that if they dont want to ever have to worry about "union problems" that they should get the TWU in there quick. "TWU- They give companies the lowest labor costs everyday!"

A couple of years back I attended an IRRA conference in DC. During the lunch break two representatives from Worldwide sat at the table where I was sitting. We engaged in small talk, we both knew Richie Boehm from Local 504. Then this guy came over from Aircon. He was trying to get Worldwide to apply for membership. He introduced himself as "I'm the guy who gives you all the information to scare away your unions". The guys from Worldwide werent interested, they did not need his services, after all they had the TWU.
 
AMFAMAN said:
How well the twu represent Worldwide....Read this twu express story....

Florida Bill Ends Living Wage for Miami Airport Workers
espite the efforts of TWU, Miami-
Dade Mayor Alex Penelas and other
political and union leaders, Florida
Governor Jeb Bush signed a bill which
will sharply cut the pay of thousands of
workers at Miami International Airport.
The bill removes provisions in the
county’s “living wage” ordinance that
cover employees of permit holders, including
fueling firms and those that provide
baggage and food handlers. Left intact
are wage protections for employees
D of firms that do business directly with
the county.
Miami-Dade’s living wage ordinance
was extended to airport workers in the
wake of 9/11 because the county wanted
to reduce the turnover of workers in
“safety-sensitive” positions. The ordinance
requires double the federal minimum
wage of $5.15 per hour.
In a letter urging Governor Bush to
veto the wage-killing bill, TWU International
Vice President George Roberts
said, “Without the Living Wage (these
workers) will be paid minimum wage
with no health insurance or benefits.”
He noted that livable wages benefit the
community as well as the worker, since
less public funds will be spent on welfare,
food stamps and health care.
At a press conference May 29, Miami-
Dade Mayor Penelas said it was unfair
to impose Senate Bill 54 on thousands
of employees at Miami International
Airport, noting that the “annual income
of the MIA workers is just over $20,000
which is rather low to support a family.”
Mayor Penelas went on to say, “We are
gathered here today to urge Governor
Bush to veto SB 54.”
State Senator Debbie Wasserman
Schulz, from Dade County, said, “There
is never an appropriate time to not pay
workers a decent wage,” adding that
“with heightened security, we shouldn’t
be pulling the rug from under workers
who are here keeping us safe.”
Several members of Local 504 who
work for World Wide Service were on
hand to explain to the press that ending
the Living Wage would hurt union
workers as well. They said work would
be lost to non-union firms paying minimum
wage, eventually driving wages
down for everyone.
State Representative Manny Prieguez
said he was the only Republican sponsoring
an amendment to remove the
part of the bill that affects the employees
at the Miami International Airport. That
measure lost by five votes. State Rep.
Marcelo Llorente also urged a veto.
Fred Frost, South Florida AFL-CIO
President and a member of TWU Local
568, emphasized the human aspect of
the issue. “Miami is the poorest city in
the country — this is going to have an
adverse affect,” he said. “It’s about quality
of life” for these workers.
Building on
Why didn't the twu negotiate a living wage instead of trying to legislate one.
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Well AMFAMAN, look at the list of people who opposed the measure. Maybe more people should have voted for a dirty, pinko ,liberal, socialist Democrat.


AMFAMAN, as you don't say where you are located you probably are blameless for this Bush's actions. This is the downside of democracy, those people who voted, have spoken thru their governor.
 
j7915 said:
Well AMFAMAN, look at the list of people who opposed the measure. Maybe more people should have voted for a dirty, pinko ,liberal, socialist Democrat.
AMFAMAN, as you don't say where you are located you probably are blameless for this Bush's actions. This is the downside of democracy, those people who voted, have spoken thru their governor.
[post="176043"][/post]​


Never voted for Bush, either one of them, in fact I can't recall ever voting for a Republican since I've been legal to vote. This is not by political alliance but rather have not found one Republican worth voting for. On the flip side, I did vote for Perot twice and Nader once(don't worry, I was the only one in my district who voted for him and I don't live in FLA). I do strongly believe in a third party system, as both Democrats and Republican in my eyes are both the party of the rich now, they just have different approaches in delivering their B.S. BTW...I will step out this time and vote for Kerry, not for his record or anything else, they are both liars in my eyes, no I will vote for the ugliest man ever to score a billionare wife, yes there is hope for all of us. :up: :up:

Now what this has to do with the fact that the twu negotiated a contract based on a piece of legislation is beyond me. Let's get back to the facts here and answer the questions at hand. Why not negotiate a living wage from Worldwide themselves and not some subsidized crap. Tell me, were their dues based on the amount negotiated, mininum wage, or were they based on the combined government assistance and mininum wage? Can you obtain a copy of their contract for all of our viewing, I think it would be worth looking at?
 
Btw...I found my answer on the Worldwide dues. They pay 1.15% of their gross, which equated to $20.50 a month or roughly 4 times their hourly mininum wage salary negotiated by the twu, 2 times the government assisted rate.

Worldwide dues..go to last page

Also their President makes well over 100k a year.
 
AMFAMAN said:
Btw...I found my answer on the Worldwide dues. They pay 1.15% of their gross, which equated to $20.50 a month or roughly 4 times their hourly mininum wage salary negotiated by the twu, 2 times the government assisted rate.

Worldwide dues..go to last page

Also their President makes well over 100k a year.
[post="176296"][/post]​
I noticed that John Kerrigan gets a little $4900 dollar kickback from the local.

Another one of the TWUs fine achievements is the TRiangle contract. Triangle members are no longer forced to join the union. Since they top out at around $7 per hour its only fair that they should not have to join and pay the $100 initiation fee.
 
Bob Owens said:
I guess that AMR told Worldwide that if they dont want to ever have to worry about "union problems" that they should get the TWU in there quick.

[post="175810"][/post]​


Thats B.S Bob, the record shows that if you want to get rid of your "union probelms", you get rid of the workers. If you want to do that, you get the amfa in there and kill two birds with one stone ( outsource the work and have massive layoffs). You know, like they did at NWA or like they just announced at Alaska.
 
Strake said:
Thats B.S Bob, the record shows that if you want to get rid of your "union probelms", you get rid of the workers. If you want to do that, you get the amfa in there and kill two birds with one stone ( outsource the work and have massive layoffs). You know, like they did at NWA or like they just announced at Alaska.
[post="178531"][/post]​
If you really want to burn down an airline, ask the former iam/twu workers at Pan Am, Eastern, TWA, and US Air. Concession after concession didn't save them did it gutless?
 

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