Carriers at PHL Naval Shipyard

[Justme]

There was a documentary made about the ship a few years ago, uploaded to YouTube in several segments.

Ha Ha. I've been waiting 42 years to tell someone this story.

In the summer of '69 my family cruised across the Atlantic on what I believe was the final voyage of the SS United States. We left Bremerhaven, I think stopped over in England, and then made it to NYC in 4 or 5 days. It was pretty cool, and since we were returning to the USA on a Permanent Change of Station it was paid for by the Army. I remember the swimming pool, the lavish meals (not that great for a 14 year old, would have preferred "normal" kid food) movie theatre, standing up on the forecastle in the wind and sea spray, and the fact that it was huge. Our previous transatlantic voyages were aboard the USS Darby and Buckner (WWII era troop transports), so this was definitely a departure from what we were used to.

I know there were a few attempts at restoring her, didn't Onasis own it at one point?

Thanks for this post.

 

[PHLfa88]

It's about as relevant as your comments are!

Since most who visit PHL either fly over or drive past the area and since PHL is US Airways International and more profitable hub I think it is totally appropriate.

I'll repeat..This affects USAirways How? This an airline forum not a Navy Shipyard Forum!

 

[Harry Callahan]

I'll repeat..This affects USAirways How? This an airline forum not a Navy Shipyard Forum!

I really hope you are different in person than what you post on these boards.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I'll repeat..This affects USAirways How? This an airline forum not a Navy Shipyard Forum!

Everyone but YOU seems to be fine with it! So what does that say?


Now that we've solved that. Has anyone visited the link I posted for the Little Known and Abandoned Airports? Some really great pictures are there. I always wondered about that airfield by the airport. The reason the bas closed was due to growth of traffic at PHL I would guess much of that growth was from US and it's predecessor airline Allegheny.

I had a friend who used to call it "Agony Air" and I'm wondering if that was a common nickname? I never flew ever until I earned trip to Hawaii when I worked at Xerox in '87. We went out on AA and came home on UA.

See I worked US into the thread just so certain people don't get their knicker in a twist! We have several pilot threads where twisted Knickers are a qualification for posting.

 

[No Land Green]

Everyone but YOU seems to be fine with it! So what does that say?


Now that we've solved that. Has anyone visited the link I posted for the Little Known and Abandoned Airports? Some really great pictures are there. I always wondered about that airfield by the airport. The reason the bas closed was due to growth of traffic at PHL I would guess much of that growth was from US and it's predecessor airline Allegheny.

I had a friend who used to call it "Agony Air" and I'm wondering if that was a common nickname? I never flew ever until I earned trip to Hawaii when I worked at Xerox in '87. We went out on AA and came home on UA.

See I worked US into the thread just so certain people don't get their knicker in a twist! We have several pilot threads where twisted Knickers are a qualification for posting.

Henry C. Mustin Naval Air Facility, operational from 1926 to 1963. Named after Navy Captain Henry C. Mustin, (1874-1923). I believe he had something to do with the catapult launch system..........I have hundreds of takeoff and landings on USS JFK CV-67..........

 

[BoeingBoy]

I had a friend who used to call it "Agony Air" and I'm wondering if that was a common nickname?

Yup, it was a bastardization of "Allegheny" like America "Worst" was a bastardization of "West".

The reason the bas closed was due to growth of traffic at PHL I would guess much of that growth was from US and it's predecessor airline Allegheny.

Doubtful since Allegheny was a regional carrier at the time. The growth in PHL traffic was more likely the general growth as the population of the metropolitian area grew and the increase in flights by the national and flag carriers of that time.

One interesting note about the history of that little airport is the description of the pick up and dropping of the mail - "air mail" at a time when most mail was transported longer distances by rail. After the US/PI merger I read a book on the history of USAir (as it was called at that time) all the way back to All American Airways days which was the name when it started as a mail only carrier (hence the AAA designator that still exists today). According to the book, AAA developed that method of dropping and picking up the air mail without landing for use at all the small airports in western PA it served.

Jim

 

[Move2CLT]

I'll repeat..This affects USAirways How? This an airline forum not a Navy Shipyard Forum!

Do I need to lay into you again?

Weren't you the genius who posted a call for a job action on a public forum?

 

[Move2CLT]

And This has to do with USAirways How?

Please change your avatar. Using a picture of your child after you've beaten him is inappropriate.

 

[N965VJ]

I'll repeat..This affects USAirways How? This an airline forum not a Navy Shipyard Forum!

Just be quiet and get me a can of soda water. Then you can go back to reading journals of deep thinking on the jumpseat. 😛

Yup, it was a bastardization of "Allegheny" like America "Worst" was a bastardization of "West".

I heard it many times, such as "You guys used to be Agony Airlines, and now you ruined Piedmont!". 😱

One interesting note about the history of that little airport is the description of the pick up and dropping of the mail - "air mail" at a time when most mail was transported longer distances by rail.

A few times during recurrent when we were doing CRM with the pilots, the classes were held in a former (junior high?) building in Moon. There were a lot of display cases in the hallways containing the history of all the airlines that made up US. B)

 

[LD3]

After the US/PI merger I read a book on the history of USAir (as it was called at that time) all the way back to All American Airways days which was the name when it started as a mail only carrier (hence the AAA designator that still exists today). Jim

Thanks, always wondered why some of the old timers said AAA....

 

[UtterlyUdder]

Yup, it was a bastardization of "Allegheny" like America "Worst" was a bastardization of "West".



Doubtful since Allegheny was a regional carrier at the time. The growth in PHL traffic was more likely the general growth as the population of the metropolitian area grew and the increase in flights by the national and flag carriers of that time.

One interesting note about the history of that little airport is the description of the pick up and dropping of the mail - "air mail" at a time when most mail was transported longer distances by rail. After the US/PI merger I read a book on the history of USAir (as it was called at that time) all the way back to All American Airways days which was the name when it started as a mail only carrier (hence the AAA designator that still exists today). According to the book, AAA developed that method of dropping and picking up the air mail without landing for use at all the small airports in western PA it served.

Jim

There are still some of those pick up pilots living and what a story they have! I think Norm Rintoul is still alive. Norm Rintoul's story is exceptionally interesting. Teterboro has an aviation museum that has an old Martin. I tried to gin up support to have it restored but to no avail. I think it is a shame that more active people seem to have no interest in the history of AAA. You are missing out on so much.

 

[Move2CLT]

Just be quiet and get me a can of soda water. Then you can go back to reading journals of deep thinking on the jumpseat.

I knew you had it in you. I just knew it.

You're going to do just fine here.

 

[Move2CLT]

Please change your avatar. Using a picture of your child after you've beaten him is inappropriate.

God damn! She changed her avatar because I told her to!! LMAO!

Guess the FAs are spring loaded to do as they're told.

Great choice on the new avatar.

 

[LD3]

Alright, a little trivia about the name US Airways....What airline established in 1978 (and still flying) was called US Airways before changing their name? Sorry for going off topic...

 

[BoeingBoy]

A few times during recurrent when we were doing CRM with the pilots, the classes were held in a former (junior high?) building in Moon. There were a lot of display cases in the hallways containing the history of all the airlines that made up US. B)

I never had recurrent in PIT, just initial when changing planes, but the pilot training center (not sim building) was a former elementary or middle school building which had displays of airplane models, uniforms, etc.. I think the FA's used a building on Beer's School Rd since I went there a couple of times for exit door training.

Jim