Cessna 340

[PlayTheOdds]

I have been working for only a short time in the GA Industry but in this short time I have learned that the Cessna 340 is a very bad aircraft to own in this day and time. So in the event that anyone that reads this is considering buying a 340 I highly suggest against it. The cost of maintaining and operating this aircraft is ridiculous. Might I also suggest that you stay away from any aircraft with a turbo-charger. If you feel you need that kind of power just go ahead and front the cost for a turbine powered aircraft. You will save tens of thousands in the long run. If you insist on buying one of these aircraft do have a complete annual performed on it even if it has had a fresh annual performed. Do not use the maintenance facility that normally performs the maintenance for the current owner.

 

[UAL_TECH]

I have been working for only a short time in the GA Industry but in this short time I have learned that the Cessna 340 is a very bad aircraft to own in this day and time. So in the event that anyone that reads this is considering buying a 340 I highly suggest against it. The cost of maintaining and operating this aircraft is ridiculous. Might I also suggest that you stay away from any aircraft with a turbo-charger. If you feel you need that kind of power just go ahead and front the cost for a turbine powered aircraft. You will save tens of thousands in the long run. If you insist on buying one of these aircraft do have a complete annual performed on it even if it has had a fresh annual performed. Do not use the maintenance facility that normally performs the maintenance for the current owner.

Could not stop laughing at your ‘recommendation’……..
Did you ever get you’re A&P or are you still a ScabApprentice? 😛
Still manufacturing parts ‘to fit’?
Dude, you are dangerous! :mf_boff: :mf_boff: :mf_boff:

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Could not stop laughing at your ‘recommendation’……..

I am glad I could be of service, what is so funny about my recommendation?

It is said that there are only two times that a 340 owner is happy with his aircraft. "The day he bought it and the day he sold it."

Did you ever get you’re A&P or are you still a ScabApprentice? 😛

As you well know I do hold an A&P Certificate, I simply have refused to lower myself to the ranks of the AMT term.

Still manufacturing parts ‘to fit’?

As a matter-of-fact I am. That is what is so great about GA, you get to exercise your full potential as a mechanic or technician if you prefer.

Dude, you are dangerous! :mf_boff: :mf_boff: :mf_boff:

43.13 "Dude"

 

[UAL_TECH]

I am glad I could be of service, what is so funny about my recommendation?

It is said that there are only two times that a 340 owner is happy with his aircraft. "The day he bought it and the day he sold it."

As you well know I do hold an A&P Certificate, I simply have refused to lower myself to the ranks of the AMT term.



As a matter-of-fact I am. That is what is so great about GA, you get to exercise your full potential as a mechanic or technician if you prefer.

43.13 "Dude"

Did you apply Title 14 Part 43 Section 43.13 to NWA aircraft? Or did you even notice the difference?
😛 UT

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Did you apply Title 14 Part 43 Section 43.13 to NWA aircraft? Or did you even notice the difference?
😛 UT

My little stint at NWA was a great experiance, I thoroughly enjoyed working line. It can be a very high paced job. I am not knocking the line mechanic in this post. A line mechanic must be sharp and very quick and make decesions with very limited time. The fact is though most repairs performed are pretty routine mundane repairs. Actualy the word repair should not even be used for they rarly repair anything. For the most part they are parts exchangers or MEL writters. If there is a flight critacl issue with an aircraft and the problem cannot be readily resolved the aircarft is going to the hanger for further troubleshooting. The Line Mechanic will have no part of it after that.

Tnere is a big differance between Transport and GA. If you really want a free-for-all lets throw Experimental in the mix. Don't tell the Princess though she'll get all emotional and flip-out.

"d. Certificate Holder. Any person certificated by the FAA and authorized to perform maintenance, preventive maintenance, rebuilding, and alterations as provided in 14 CFR section 43.3. Within the context of this AC, if a certificate holder intends to fabricate a part for maintaining a product he/she may do so only under the provisions (privileges) of his/her certificate."

FABRICATION OF AIRCRAFT PARTS

 

[Kev3188]

My little stint at NWA was a great experiance, I thoroughly enjoyed working line.

Despite not being able to use your "artisan" skills in making up your own sheet metal fabrications?

For the most part they are parts exchangers or MEL writters.

Mainly the latter since 20.Aug.05

Tnere is a big differance between Transport and GA. If you really want a free-for-all lets throw Experimental in the mix. Don't tell the Princess though she'll get all emotional and flip-out.

I dunno, NWA maintenance certainly smacks of a "free for all" these days...

 

[UAL_TECH]

My little stint at NWA was a great experiance, I thoroughly enjoyed working line. It can be a very high paced job. I am not knocking the line mechanic in this post. A line mechanic must be sharp and very quick and make decesions with very limited time. The fact is though most repairs performed are pretty routine mundane repairs. Actualy the word repair should not even be used for they rarly repair anything. For the most part they are parts exchangers or MEL writters. If there is a flight critacl issue with an aircraft and the problem cannot be readily resolved the aircarft is going to the hanger for further troubleshooting. The Line Mechanic will have no part of it after that.

Tnere is a big differance between Transport and GA. If you really want a free-for-all lets throw Experimental in the mix. Don't tell the Princess though she'll get all emotional and flip-out.

"d. Certificate Holder. Any person certificated by the FAA and authorized to perform maintenance, preventive maintenance, rebuilding, and alterations as provided in 14 CFR section 43.3. Within the context of this AC, if a certificate holder intends to fabricate a part for maintaining a product he/she may do so only under the provisions (privileges) of his/her certificate."

FABRICATION OF AIRCRAFT PARTS

That is why idiots like you are dangerous. You have no compulsion to going down to the home depot and getting a barrel ‘bolt’ with a ¾ inch head and taking out your drill to make safety holes in the head and if the bolt is too long, you’ll ‘hack’ and file off the excess ‘to fit’. Regardless of the metallurgic requirements and shear tolerances.

You ‘guys’ are dangerous if you do not follow OEM CMM specifications and shoot from the hip.

B) UT

 

[tech2101]

Despite not being able to use your "artisan" skills in making up your own sheet metal fabrications?
Mainly the latter since 20.Aug.05
I dunno, NWA maintenance certainly smacks of a "free for all" these days...

Seeing as how PTO never actually worked for an airline maintenance operation, he will never really know what real mechanics used to do at NWA before 8.20.2005.

He obviously didn't have the qualifications or the social ability to get past the first step in the hiring process for any airline. So he chose to slither under the door after we closed it on 8.19.2005.

So he is now working on some poor suckers Cessna 340? god help the owner, he'll need it. I think I would heed his reccomendation not to buy any C-340 since he could possibly have worked on it.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Despite not being able to use your "artisan" skills in making up your own sheet metal fabrications?

Indeed so.

That is why idiots like you are dangerous. You have no compulsion to going down to the home depot...Regardless of the metallurgic requirements and shear tolerances.

Now we are being sarcastic and rude. I said 43.13 not the sale rack at Home Depot. Though I must say there is a beautiful Experimental Aircraft that was built from plans only from local hardware stores and lumber outlets with the occasional purchase from Spruce Aircraft. The HOBBS read over 1200 Hrs.

You ‘guys’ are dangerous if you do not follow OEM CMM specifications and shoot from the hip.

Shoot from the hip? Not even close there hotshot. Have you ever heard of SRM's, PMA or detail drawings? I can see that you are from the land of the Parts Exchangers.

Seeing as how PTO never actually worked for an airline maintenance operation, he will never really know what real mechanics used to do at NWA before 8.20.2005.

I know all to well what you did. You were way over staffed so you sat at your gate reading magazines. On a good day you kicked off two clean birds. On a bad day you wrote a couple of MELS. On your worst days you changed a tire, cleared a Lav or replaced an LRU.

If your buddy was struggling at the next gate you said, "Not my gate." and kept reading your magazine.

He obviously didn't have the qualifications or the social ability to get past the first step in the hiring process for any airline. So he chose to slither under the door after we closed it on 8.19.2005.

Did you close the door or leave it wide open? I see you still believe what ol'e Bob and Dell preached to you guys.

So he is now working on some poor suckers Cessna 340? god help the owner, he'll need it. I think I would heed his reccomendation not to buy any C-340 since he could possibly have worked on it.

If that’s what it takes to keep some poor sucker from buying a 340 then so be it. It is a large complicated aircraft that only carries six people. The six is questionable because the two that I have worked on has had the sixth seat removed because it is almost impossible to get in and out of the aircraft with it installed. It is simply a piss poor designed aircraft that cost a fortune to operate.

 

[groundcontrol]

My little stint at NWA was a great experiance, I thoroughly enjoyed working line. It can be a very high paced job. I am not knocking the line mechanic in this post. A line mechanic must be sharp and very quick and make decesions with very limited time. The fact is though most repairs performed are pretty routine mundane repairs. Actualy the word repair should not even be used for they rarly repair anything. For the most part they are parts exchangers or MEL writters. If there is a flight critacl issue with an aircraft and the problem cannot be readily resolved the aircarft is going to the hanger for further troubleshooting. The Line Mechanic will have no part of it after that.

Guess you really don't know airlines or line maintenance unless you work an out station...excuse me what is a hanger? I did everything from a to z.

 

[UAL_TECH]

Indeed so.
Now we are being sarcastic and rude. I said 43.13 not the sale rack at Home Depot. Though I must say there is a beautiful Experimental Aircraft that was built from plans only from local hardware stores and lumber outlets with the occasional purchase from Spruce Aircraft. The HOBBS read over 1200 Hrs.

Shoot from the hip? Not even close there hotshot. Have you ever heard of SRM's, PMA or detail drawings? I can see that you are from the land of the Parts Exchangers.

Nope, I’m be ignorant N’Chit. I don’t know what an STC, DAS, TCC, DER or a plethora of these here udder stuffins be. But iffin you be a buildin Chit based on your ‘gut’ without 'FAA Approved Data and Technical Justification' din yO butt should be in da’slammer.

Das all I no.
😛 UT

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Guess you really don't know airlines or line maintenance unless you work an out station...

Do you mean the places where 99% of the work performed is with a pen? If you’re lucky you get to service a tire or oils on occasion? Where most of your day is spent at the local FBO picking up a few dollars on the side?

...excuse me what is a hanger? I did everything from a to z.

A to Z or a to z? I guess it really doesn't matter for your "everything" is pitiful

 

[UAL_TECH]

Did you apply Title 14 Part 43 Section 43.13 to NWA aircraft? Or did you even notice the difference?
😛 UT

You call me 'rude' but skirt the question.

Not unexpected from a SCAB... 😛

 

[groundcontrol]

Do you mean the places where 99% of the work performed is with a pen? If you’re lucky you get to service a tire or oils on occasion? Where most of your day is spent at the local FBO picking up a few dollars on the side?

only thing correct in this rant is that as real, experienced, skilled mechanics we did get to use pens. Unlike the former and present SCABS that are issued pencils with their chinese tools. 😛

A to Z or a to z? I guess it really doesn't matter for your "everything" is pitiful

This is just dumb scab mentality.... :blink:

 

[Kev3188]

Do you mean the places where 99% of the work performed is with a pen? If you’re lucky you get to service a tire or oils on occasion?

Is this a wind up?

Do you really not have any idea of what all used to go on at NWA line stations?

In my former city, the only time they were MEL'ing stuff was in the weeks leading up to the strike, when the copmany would no longer stock parts.

On a normal day-or night-there were work packages (though the company quit sending those a while ago) in addition to any write ups, ETOPS checks, and any number of other things...And I worked in one of the smaller of the staffed cities.

This "MEL-n-go" philosophy at NWA is a new one to most of us...