Dash8-400 available immediately
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robbedagain
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but cant something similar be said about the 737 when it had the rudder issues back in the 1990s? when there were issues with the plane at that time?
DC10, 737, 747, MD11 all have had "issues". Now that its been identified, they just have to find the cause and fix it like with these types that are still flying.
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Oh I remember when the tragic accident happened at Alaska with the md-80. I was based in PIT and when scheduling started coverage there were two pages of mad dog trips. I had NO desire to fly the bird then. With that being said, sometimes aircraft types go through these things. They should find the fix though before buying potentially broken birds. If we bought them I wouldn't want to take the first ride.
It's not like they fell out of the sky. There are many airlines flying this airplane, and a few have had gear issues (ANA, SAS seem to be the two). If US Airways could get them for a good deal they should jump all over it. Get the planes at a good discount and see if you like operating them. I am sure PDT could have them flying in no time. Look at 906HA, that plane is one of the first of the assembly line and the highest time Dash 8 in the world and she is still blasting holes thru the clouds.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0712859/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0712859/L/
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According to boeingboy, SAS completely rebuilt their landing gear after the first incident.
I'm sure SAS took into consideration of the cost of getting rid of their entire Dash fleet, and they realized that there was nothing they could do to make themselves comfortable flying this plane.
I wouldn't trust piedmont (with their smokey cabins) to maintain the Q400's
I'm sure SAS took into consideration of the cost of getting rid of their entire Dash fleet, and they realized that there was nothing they could do to make themselves comfortable flying this plane.
I wouldn't trust piedmont (with their smokey cabins) to maintain the Q400's
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I think PDT has done on helluva job flying 25 year old airplanes. For the amount of flight time and age on PDT's fleet I think they have done a great job with its realiability rate. Hell, give them so new tools to work with. If they can do this with 25 year old technology, imagine how nice it would be to have something that was atleast built in the 90's.....
Some (most/all?) of the PDT 300s were built in the 90s. Bear in mind that PDT also disabled the NVS on the 200s before the leases expired on them. I believe the claim was that it was too expensive to fix.
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I didn't think that any of the PDT Dash's were that old either. I know that ALG started operating them in the 1989-90 timeframe, and Henson had a few just prior to that. The DH-7's may have been 25 years old, but that is about it.
Earliest build dates on the 100s are 1984, older than some of the first officers flying them.
At last report, PDT had the dubious distinction of operating the WORLD'S oldest DH8. Not the country's. The world's. Given the age of their fleet, and the difficulty attracting/retaining pilots at regionals, I think they do pretty darn good.
Wrong, the 300's came out before the 200's. If we have any 300's built in the 90's, it would be real early 90's!
But who cares who's right! Bottom line is that we operate some old a$$ planes.
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From today's Toronto Star:
"The landing gear malfunction that caused Scandinavian Airlines to permanently ground its fleet of Bombardier Inc.-built turboprops and prompted European safety officials to call for an "emergency crisis meeting" is not related to two earlier accidents that involved the same type of plane, according to Danish investigators."
"In a preliminary report published yesterday, Denmark's Civil Aviation Accident Investigation Board said an inspection of the landing gear on the Bombardier Q-400 involved in the most recent SAS incident revealed a valve inside the gear's actuator piston was blocked by a foreign "O-ring," a circular elastic seal. "
Full story here
"The landing gear malfunction that caused Scandinavian Airlines to permanently ground its fleet of Bombardier Inc.-built turboprops and prompted European safety officials to call for an "emergency crisis meeting" is not related to two earlier accidents that involved the same type of plane, according to Danish investigators."
"In a preliminary report published yesterday, Denmark's Civil Aviation Accident Investigation Board said an inspection of the landing gear on the Bombardier Q-400 involved in the most recent SAS incident revealed a valve inside the gear's actuator piston was blocked by a foreign "O-ring," a circular elastic seal. "
Full story here
300s didn't enter service for anyone until 1989 and the oldest 300 Piedmont has is N333EN.
http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-dh8-221.htm
In fact, all of Piedmont's 300 were built between 1990 and 1994.
Gosh, while we're all experts on the subject... I just flew one that was built in '98. What the hell do I know, though? I just kinda... operated it. Whatever. Looking backward from Shuttle America today, you get......
nothing but facts in the way.
