day one of two day negotiations anybody have a clue whats going on?

[Raptorman49]

Some on this forum are seen as aggressive. Others see it as an insult. When one "insults" to a certain degree the other retorts and it is to and fro. Then name calling etc.
It has been referred to as behind the keyboard attacks. Threats are made, but never followed through.

It is definitely off topic. This how these threads get off topic, with someone's ego becoming bruised.
In these exchanges bother are correct and both are wrong. But to threaten to rat out a user on these forums is going to far. Just put those you do not on ignore and move on.

I disagree Buck & it's not a threat it's a fact, I also report rapist, thief's robbing someone's house, vandals, pedophiles, kidnappers etc. I don't have a problem reporting dishonorable acts, now an honorable act for example two men who don't like each other amicably squaring off in a field or going to a gym & strapping on the gloves etc. nothing dishonorable about that in fact I consider that quite honorable even though it's not legal, so I wouldn't report something like that, I don't ignore people who constantly insult me because they don't like my opinion Buck, they get my full attention, which is why me & Dave were going back & fourth for a while ... he had my full attention.
as far as whether it is considered aggressive or insult whatever that is for the Moderators to decide & deal with ... oh btw attacking someone from behind a keyboard is Never correct it's cowardly.... Period.
We can agree to disagree but I will be doing it My way so let's move on & get back to topic, come see me if you want to discuss the issue further, this isn't the place.

 

[Buck]

I disagree Buck & it's not a threat it's a fact, I also report rapist, thief's robbing someone's house, vandals, pedophiles, kidnappers etc. I don't have a problem reporting dishonorable acts, now an honorable act for example two men who don't like each other amicably squaring off in a field or going to a gym & strapping on the gloves etc. nothing dishonorable about that in fact I consider that quite honorable even though it's not legal, so I wouldn't report something like that, I don't ignore people who constantly insult me because they don't like my opinion Buck, they get my full attention, which is why me & Dave were going back & fourth for a while ... he had my full attention.
as far as whether it is considered aggressive or insult whatever that is for the Moderators to decide & deal with ... oh btw attacking someone from behind a keyboard is Never correct it's cowardly.... Period.
We can agree to disagree but I will be doing it My way so let's move on & get back to topic, come see me if you want to discuss the issue further, this isn't the place.

I never mentioned you or your name.

Do you think your back and forth with Dave is the first time this "behavior"has occurred?

 

[Raptorman49]

I never mentioned you or your name.

Do you think your back and forth with Dave is the first time this "behavior"has occurred?

Don't care if you mention my name, it won't be the first time someone has ....LOL
& no I know this goes on all the time Buck & the people who get picked on hate it & often leave forever, I would rather the bullies leave than the civil respectful people, it's easy for someone to turn their back on wrong dishonorable acts but what's the old saying all that is needed for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. .... this subject is not the point of this thread let's move on to the topic Please

 

[enough already]

Tentative Agreement:
http://twubkfacts.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=1PkHWZvgxSM%3d&tabid=1494

 

[Raptorman49]

Tentative Agreement:
http://twubkfacts.or...xSM=&tabid=1494

Finally .... thank you, hate to look at it but here goes nothing.
Pretty vague so far I only see the 3% DOS

 

[paul1]

the deal is in


it better be atleast 3% every year

 

[paul1]

http://aa.twu.org/Li...emM=&tabid=1494 http://aa.twu.org/ho...y-10,-2012.aspx

 

[the cave]

it will pass no me too money for line maint so we need another NO vote.....

 

[comatose]

it will pass no me too money for line maint so we need another NO vote.....

Did this get voted on by the locals to bring back to the membership or is this

another Little Jimmy I know what's best for you LBO.

 

[Raptorman49]

Did this get voted on by the locals to bring back to the membership or is this

another Little Jimmy I know what's best for you LBO.

Yes i'm hearing that it did get a role call vote.

 

[Buck]

Line Presidents, AFW President and MIA Title 2 voted against the rest voted for it.

 

[olderguyAMT]

Yes i'm hearing that it did get a role call vote.

OK TWU, time for a clarification.

According to Airline Biz Blog, Dallas Morn News,
TWU deal squeaked by....... a vote of 9 to 7 negotiators.

If a Role Call vote uses the number of members in the coresponding representives affiliation,
that would give Tulsa 514 a lot of clout due to the number of members of that local.......

Who decides when a roll call vote will be made? Is there a roll call vote for a roll call vote?
How much undemocratic manipulation is at play?

Would AMFA ever use a roll call vote to tip the ballance scales in a certain way????