Death Panel Advisory

[delldude]

A government task force said Monday that most women don't need mammograms in their 40s and should get one every two years starting at 50 — a stunning reversal and a break with the American Cancer Society's long-standing position. What's more, the panel said breast self-exams do no good, and women shouldn't be taught to do them.

Whoopee......free healthcare.....whoopee.......

Death Panel- PC is 'U.S. Preventive Services Task Force'

Rationing and the bill isn't even passed yet.......

Wait till 50 and the risk and survivability chances goes up and down.....

 

[The Man]

Fearmonger.

 

[Garfield1966]

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But the government panel of doctors and scientists concluded that getting screened for breast cancer so early and so often leads to too many false alarms and unneeded biopsies without substantially improving women's odds of survival.

Medical groups such as the cancer society have been backing off promoting breast self-exams in recent years because of scant evidence of their effectiveness. Decades ago, the practice was so heavily promoted that organizations distributed cards that could be hung in the shower demonstrating the circular motion women should use to feel for lumps in their breasts.

But Susan Pisano, a spokeswoman for America's Health Insurance Plans, an industry group, said insurance coverage isn't likely to change because of the new guidelines. No changes are planned in Medicare coverage either, said Dori Salcido, spokeswoman for the Health and Human Services department.

The guidelines are for the general population, not those at high risk of breast cancer because of family history or gene mutations that would justify having mammograms sooner or more often.

Medical groups such as the cancer society have been backing off promoting breast self-exams in recent years because of scant evidence of their effectiveness. Decades ago, the practice was so heavily promoted that organizations distributed cards that could be hung in the shower demonstrating the circular motion women should use to feel for lumps in their breasts.

The guidelines and research supporting them were released Monday and are being published in Tuesday's issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine.

 

[southwind]

Fearmonger.

Lemming.

 

[Tug McGroin]

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The Entire Article (same panel 6 months ago)

The downward trend, however slight, has breast cancer experts worried. Mammograms can enable physicians to diagnose the disease at early stages, often before a lump can be felt. “When breast cancer is detected early, it often can be treated before it has a chance to spread in the body and increase the risk of dying from the disease,â€￾ says Katherine Alley, medical director of the breast health program at Suburban Hospital in Bethesda.

The U.S Preventive Services Task Force, an independent panel of experts working under the Department of Health and Human Services, recommends that women older than 40 get a mammogram every one to two years. The task force finds the test most helpful for women between ages 50 and 69, for whom it says the evidence is strongest that screening lowers death rates from breast cancer. Other groups, including the American Medical Association, suggest a more rigorous schedule, saying the test should be done every year; insurers often pay for annual tests.

But experts say they are seeing gaps beyond two years in many cases. Carol Lee, chair of the American College of Radiology’s Breast Imaging Commission and a radiologist at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, says many women understand that they need to have a mammogram but don’t go back for repeat tests after the first one. In Bethesda, Alley said she has even heard anecdotal reports of breast cancer survivors forgoing recommended mammograms.

What a difference six months and a health-care overhaul proposal can make!

 

[delldude]

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Dude....your link is corrupted........

I forgot to add the link...........my apologies.... 😱

 

[777 fixer]

Rationing and the bill isn't even passed yet.......

Rationing might not be a bad idea, in certain cases that is. If you're a fat slob who has an illness related to being a fat slob, back of the line. You smoke a pack a day your entire adult life and get a disease because of it, back of the line.

 

[delldude]

Rationing might not be a bad idea, in certain cases that is. If you're a fat slob who has an illness related to being a fat slob, back of the line. You smoke a pack a day your entire adult life and get a disease because of it, back of the line.

Maybe you get cancer from working around aircraft and related known carcinogens...you too go to the back of the bus...........

After all...you knowingly had monetary gain doing these related harmful activities.......


Garfield wrote:

But the government panel of doctors and scientists concluded that getting screened for breast cancer so early and so often leads to too many false alarms and unneeded biopsies without substantially improving women's odds of survival.

Funny thing Gar......this same group some 6 or so months ago claimed not enough women in that noted age group were getting mammograms.....wonder why they changed their position?

Couldn't possibly be some Obama related change in position could it?

 

[delldude]

Duh.....change of tune?

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, in a written statement, said the new guidelines had "caused a great deal of confusion and worry among women and their families across this country," and she stressed that they were issued by "an outside independent panel of doctors and scientists who . . . do not set federal policy and . . . don't determine what services are covered by the federal government."

Maybe so but this is interesting:

The USPSTF conducts rigorous, impartial assessments of the scientific evidence for the effectiveness of a broad range of clinical preventive services, including screening, counseling, and preventive medications. Its recommendations are considered the "gold standard" for clinical preventive services.

Huh?

Worried that the guidelines might complicate the health-care debate , the White House has swiftly reacted to the panel's decision. By Tuesday night, the rationing argument had made it to Fox News, prompting a quick response on an administration blog. And as some Republicans were raising the specter of rationing Wednesday morning, White House officials were distancing the administration from the panel's recommendations. Wednesday afternoon, Sebelius expressed that view forcefully, though officials said her statements were more a disagreement with the science than part of the political pushback.

Like I previously stated....they were all for early detection until very recently...wonder why???

 

[777 fixer]

Maybe you get cancer from working around aircraft and related known carcinogens...you too go to the back of the bus...........

After all...you knowingly had monetary gain doing these related harmful activities.......

Gee dell, I though that you being a conservative you would agree with me regarding individual responsibly. Are you trying to say that those who abuse their bodies should not in some way pay some sort of price for their actions?

It's really a bad analogy between those who knowingly abuse their bodies and those who perform a function that society needs in order to function. You can't say that about smokers or people who are obese. If every smoker quit and every obese person stopped stuffing their face that would be a good thing. The health care savings alone would pay for insurance for those who don't have it. If every person who has a hazardous job stopped what they are doing chaos would ensue

Another difference is that in jobs like ours we take precautions. When we do fuel tank work we vent the tank and then go in with a respirator. If we change a PCU we wear gloves, unless you enjoy Skydrol all over your hands. What sort of precautions do smokers take?

 

[KCFlyer]

What sort of precautions do smokers take?

About as many as the folks who pay the extra 50 cents to "super size" their hamburger. You want to start a sticky thing about "personal responsiblity", you need to bear in mind that 60% of the American population is clinically obese. Pretty soon, we'll ALL be at the back of the line.

 

[southwind]

About as many as the folks who pay the extra 50 cents to "super size" their hamburger. You want to start a sticky thing about "personal responsiblity", you need to bear in mind that 60% of the American population is clinically obese. Pretty soon, we'll ALL be at the back of the line.

Your right......................a line that will be a lot longer under Obama-Care !

 

[delldude]

The thing he fails to see is whatever disease or condition one would end up with......its the cost effectiveness and survivability that will determine treatment.

 

[777 fixer]

About as many as the folks who pay the extra 50 cents to "super size" their hamburger. You want to start a sticky thing about "personal responsiblity", you need to bear in mind that 60% of the American population is clinically obese. Pretty soon, we'll ALL be at the back of the line.

That's kind of the point I'm trying to make. You hear people on TV saying that they should be able to go to the doctor when they want and get any test they want. Yet little is said about individual responsility when it comes to health care costs related to obesity.

Saw a report on the news last night saying that unless the current trend changes health care costs related to obesity will more than double.

 

[The Man]

Your right......................a line that will be a lot longer under Obama-Care !

Do you mow Dell's lawn, wash his car? Talk about a lemming, you just parrot whatever your hero says.