Delta Air Lines, The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, and JFK International Air Terminal U

[700UW]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-air-lines-port-authority-160000017.html

 

[eolesen]

Cranky wrote about it yesterday. Apparently the walk out to Gate 55 feels longer than walking from Grand Central to Penn Station...

 

[BABABOOY]

The walk is no longer than many airports around the world... Huge improvement over Terminal 3

 

[metopower]

Thanks Baba...anything would be an improvement over what we inherited from Pan Am

 

[robbedagain]

Is DL paying to have the connector from the Shuttle gates yet or is there a time frame or what?  

 

[topDawg]

Cranky wrote about it yesterday. Apparently the walk out to Gate 55 feels longer than walking from Grand Central to Penn Station...

Its a walk but its not that bad of a walk. (but as lazy as the world is becoming it does seem forever) 
 
Personally I would talk from T1 to T8 the long way if it meant not having to deal with the RJ hell hole at T2. 
 

Is DL paying to have the connector from the Shuttle gates yet or is there a time frame or what?  

care to explain a little bit more robbed?

 

[BABABOOY]

[SIZE=9pt]The "JFK [/SIZE]jitney[SIZE=9pt]" will operate [/SIZE]
Between [SIZE=9pt]Gate B18 and Gate B54 [/SIZE] in T4
[SIZE=9pt]Between Gate C60 in T2 and Gate B54 in T4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Between Gate C60 in T2 and Gate B18 in T4 [/SIZE]

 

[robbedagain]

in LGA   Does the DL Shuttle still park at the old marine air terminal  where US used to be    and are DL and the NYPA working on building a connector to make it easier for the pax
 
sorry should of been more clear.

 

[WorldTraveler]

DL already has a permanent connector between the C and D terminals.

The LGA-BOS flights operate on mainline equipment (717s) from terminal C.

LGA-DCA and LGA-ORD operate on Ejets from the Marine Air Terminal. There is no bus or connector between the main DL terminals at LGA and the MAT and DL does not sell or intend for passengers to connect between the two operations.

DL originally said it would spend about $100M on a walkway that would connect terminals 2 and 4 at JFK but decided not to do so. Given that the connector at LGA also cost about $100M IIRC and is a whole lot shorter, I suspect they found that they could build more new gates at Terminal 4 with that money over time.

 

[topDawg]

in LGA   Does the DL Shuttle still park at the old marine air terminal  where US used to be    and are DL and the NYPA working on building a connector to make it easier for the pax
 
sorry should of been more clear.

ah okay. My understanding is Delta is working with US and the port to try and get US completely out of C and Delta out of the MAT. 
 
I have heard moving B6 over to MAT and US in with AA or US Shuttle into the MAT and US in with AA (and a LCC or two that are small over to MAT) 

 

[700UW]

I doubt US/AA will move any flights to MAT, PMUS lets LGA passengers off the shuttle make connections, if they moved to the MAT that would cease.
 
And PMAA doesnt have enough gates to fit PMUS flights there, LGA will be a hard consolidation.

 

[topDawg]

I doubt US/AA will move any flights to MAT, PMUS lets LGA passengers off the shuttle make connections, if they moved to the MAT that would cease.
 
And PMAA doesnt have enough gates to fit PMUS flights there, LGA will be a hard consolidation.

I would think that, on the AA side of LGA, it would be pretty easy to set up a busing operation for connections. 
 
 
honestly this is what I wish Delta could do. MAT is by far the best terminal at LGA. 
 
 
and moving B6 to the MAT should make enough room for the US opps at the CTB I believe. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

busses don't work from the MAT. it is too long and expensive.

AA doesn't want a split operation. Neither does DL.

DL might well be willing to trade something strategic in other locations, hint, hint, in order to make things easier for AA/US and other airlines at LGA.

All the indications are that the LGA-BOS mainline 717 operation is working very well... all the reason for DL to do the same thing with the DCA-LGA leg of the Shuttle and for AA to realize the value it could add to the LGA-BOS leg for AA.

Unfortunately, AA gets little value from the LGA-DCA with the rest of AA's LGA operation because AA has few flights to destiantions north of LGA.

but this is all about LGA.

at JFK, DL is in the process of further consolidating into T4 which is way better than T2 or 3 and then start renovations on T2 as well as add a couple more mainline aircraft gates where the regional carrier operation was until a couple days ago.

 

[robbedagain]

thanks dawg   Im actually surprised that US and AA have not yet moved in together as they have been doing at a number of cities already

 

[WorldTraveler]

they can't.

there aren't enough gates to accommodate US' operation and the gate leases are too complicated.