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On 11/23/2002 10:30:44 AM Bear96 wrote:
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On 11/21/2002 10:13:32 PM Busdrvr wrote:
Shuttle WORKED! It was only dropped after sept 11 bewcause we no longer WANTED to quick turn jets.
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That was the "only" reason? Do you think that the changes to Shuttle work rules for pilots in the ALPA contract that came about after the Summer of 2000 had any impact on the financial viability of UAL Shuttle?
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ABSOLUTELY! they went hand in hand in shuttles demise. Before C2K, shuttle pilots made approx 10% less an hour, but flew at least 10% more a day (min guarentee was also 10% more per day: 5.5 vs 5). Capt Dubinsky never liked shuttle. he viewed it as a b-scale operation. C2K made the pay rates of shuttle and mainline 737 the same while still leaving shuttle productivity the same. Although the wage rates were higher, shuttle still had the advantage of better A/C utilization. Then came Sept 11. We no longer WANTED to max out the jets. Shuttle, with it's min daily flying greater than mainline, now lost it's only efficiency. Monte the Mo Brewer was rumored to have gone to senior management after Sept 11 and made the case that the pilots didn't even like it (WRONG) so it was killed, unfortunately at high costs. All those shuttle pilots were given bumps which increased training costs. In any case, expect shuttle, in one form or another, to be back at UAL.