Delta to hire additional 2,125+ F/A's into 2015

[BABABOOY]

Delta today announced the hiring of 325 F/A's for this fall with classes starting in the first half of September'14
and still working on final numbers "but it's safe to say we plan to hire at least as many (approximately 1800)- if
not more -new hire flight attendants in 2015 than we did in 2014." according to Joanne Smith  SVP IFS

 

[Kev3188]

Here's to you moving up the list!

Any idea on EO numbers?

Any truth to the word that attrition amongst "current" newhires is extremely high?

 

[BABABOOY]

I believe they only received 400 request (inflight) for Retirement.
The numbers of the new hires either quitting or dismissed is not easy to get lol.
Seems this go around there has been a lot of attrition.  but no real numbers just rumors.
and I doubt I moved up that much :-( certainly not 400 lol

 

[WorldTraveler]

the hiring is undoubtedly driven by a net increase in mainline capacity than by attrition.

why would attrition be higher now than it has been in the past?

There are growing indications that the regional carrier pilot shortage will force more and more flying to mainline - which will be good for all employee groups.

 

[Kev3188]

I believe they only received 400 request (inflight) for Retirement.

I believe it. Haven't heard anything about ACS, but I can't imagine it's much different from that. Given how anemic this one was compared to the last offer, I hope they aren't surprised.

The numbers of the new hires either quitting or dismissed is not easy to get lol.

No kidding! Everything seems like a state secret here. Has it always been this way?

Seems this go around there has been a lot of attrition.  but no real numbers just rumors.
and I doubt I moved up that much :-( certainly not 400 lol

You only need to move up one to call it a victory. 🙂

 

[BABABOOY]

I believe it. Haven't heard anything about ACS, but I can't imagine it's much different from that. Given how anemic this one was compared to the last offer, I hope they aren't surprised.



No kidding! Everything seems like a state secret here. Has it always been this way?


You only need to move up one to call it a victory. 🙂

I didn't think they would get many at all.  
It seems that they didn't have an interest in enticing anyone.
As far as the state secret thing, I have only seen the secrecy  when they talk about
issues of people leaving. Whether quitting or being "let go".   No one 
want any names just a number.   We have to be detectives to find out.  (searching seniority list)
You are 100% correct.  Moving up one person is better than not moving. 

 

[metopower]

Kev just wondering did NW have a list that detailed the people that had left the seniority list? Or was it like all the 4 airlines that I've worked for you just compares the new list with the old. Did NW management or for that matter any company publicly announce (without being prodded) head count separations except for programs ? DL is overly sensitive about controlling the messages that are presented to the public. However I personally don't see much difference with the rest of corporate America . To address the loss of some of the new hires from what I've been able to observe it is a disconnect of the job and the perceived job. Also a failure on the part of DL in their hiring objective. DL hired the wrong people. The objective was to hire the right people. Instead they hired the most " talented" people many not suited for the f/a job. By that I mean language and education were overly stressed in my opinion. The people that really wanted that job and dreamed of that job were passed over in favor of people that just wanted to pass through that job. For the early out program why would anyone take it unless they were ready to leave already . After 30yrs I'm flying 15 days a month ...3 trips to dxb for 96 hrs full benefits. Or retire? I think I drop one trip a month with full benefits and 20 days off a month and make it a hobby..... Just me

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

Where are you based, bababooy, if I may ask?

 

[Kev3188]

Kev just wondering did NW have a list that detailed the people that had left the seniority list?

We had an annual EO offer as part of our CBA. The number of people who took it was open info, and a list of who/where while not made big news was easily accessible.
 

Or was it like all the 4 airlines that I've worked for you just compares the new list with the old.

We could do that too. Isn't comparing one's old number to their new one the first order of business anytime a new list comes out?

Remember though, that unlike you & Baba, ACS does not have a system seniority list- it's broken down by station only.
 

To address the loss of some of the new hires from what I've been able to observe it is a disconnect of the job and the perceived job. Also a failure on the part of DL in their hiring objective. DL hired the wrong people. The objective was to hire the right people. Instead they hired the most " talented" people many not suited for the f/a job. By that I mean language and education were overly stressed in my opinion. The people that really wanted that job and dreamed of that job were passed over in favor of people that just wanted to pass through that job.

There seems to be a lot of that lately.

Also, specific to ACS, there's a lot of hiring the "right now" candidate, instead of waiting for the right one...

 

For the early out program why would anyone take it unless they were ready to leave already . After 30yrs I'm flying 15 days a month ...3 trips to dxb for 96 hrs full benefits. Or retire? I think I drop one trip a month with full benefits and 20 days off a month and make it a hobby..... Just me

Right?

Or to rephrase; why would anyone take it knowing how it paled in comparison to the last one? I suspect there's plenty of people ready to leave, but they'll hang on until another "good" offer comes along (whether one does or not is a different issue)...

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

To address the loss of some of the new hires from what I've been able to observe it is a disconnect of the job and the perceived job. Also a failure on the part of DL in their hiring objective. DL hired the wrong people. The objective was to hire the right people. Instead they hired the most " talented" people many not suited for the f/a job. By that I mean language and education were overly stressed in my opinion. The people that really wanted that job and dreamed of that job were passed over in favor of people that just wanted to pass through that job.

I was super excited to make it to Atlanta for a face-to-face interview early last year but I didn't get it. I chalked it up at the time to a failure on my part to "stand out" from the crowd of about 150 other applicants that day. It's hard to showcase your personality in a group that big... But I always wonder what the recruiters were looking for... I had 3 years FA experience from a LCC, a referral from my then-partner and current DL FA, and a rec from a DL LGA FSM... but oh well. Fortunately AA called to interview me and gave me a job a month later so I still feel blessed 🙂

 

[WorldTraveler]

Also, specific to ACS, there's a lot of hiring the "right now" candidate, instead of waiting for the right one...

 

Or to rephrase; why would anyone take it knowing how it paled in comparison to the last one? I suspect there's plenty of people ready to leave, but they'll hang on until another "good" offer comes along (whether one does or not is a different issue)...

I'm not sure how any company can know that someone is interested until they apply. I'm not sure there is any logic behind saying that the company does not hire whoever is available at the time.

DL packages right after 9/11 offered retiree medical coverage and were 60 point packages; after a couple iterations - and I don't think since emergence from BK - DL has not included retiree medical until the package prior to this one in which a subsidy for health care premiums was offered.

Packages otherwise have been all the same - either 55 or 60 point with a couple variations on health care thrown in. Some of the packages have included some form of retiree medical benefits because DL has received tax benefits to include them.

It is not likely there will be a better package.

If there is, it is probably because the economy is going down the tubes.

 

[metopower]

Good for you. My daughter with a rec from VP of Flt ops and f/a asst vp but only got to the phone interview. It is a major complaint that employee recommended people seem to fair worse then outside people. Supposedly they are trying to address this. But too late for many people now turned off to working here like my daughter

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Good for you. My daughter with a rec from VP of Flt ops and f/a asst vp but only got to the phone interview. It is a major complaint that employee recommended people seem to fair worse then outside people. Supposedly they are trying to address this. But too late for many people now turned off to working here like my daughter

Did DL end the no immediate family hiring rule after the NWA merger?

 

[jimntx]

I was super excited to make it to Atlanta for a face-to-face interview early last year but I didn't get it.
 

Back in May, 2000, I made it to Atlanta for an interview.  They wasted a non-rev seat bringing me over.  I'm not sure i would have accepted the job if offered.  When I walked into the interview room I extended my hand to shake.  The young woman who was to interview me looked at my hand as if I had just offered her roadkill.  And, I could hardly call it a face-to-face interview because she did not look up from her paperwork on me one single time during the entire interview.  The interview ended in about 10 minutes with her saying "that's all the questions I have" and she stood up and opened the office door (in a "you are dismissed" manner)..  No "do you have any questions?"  Nor, "We'll review your file and contact you."  Nothing.  As someone raised in the Deep South, I considered her manner extremely rude.
 
I think I must have been a what they used to call a "checkmark" interview.  One older worker.  Check.  One handicapped. Check.  Two minority.  Check.  Now, let's go to lunch and then we'll interview the people we are actually going to hire.  
 
Fortunately, American offered me an interview at DFW in June and offered me a position in a July training class on the spot.

 

[BABABOOY]

Delta up until the Pan Am acquisition didn't hire family members.
After 1991 they did.