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delldude said:
 
It was Obama who stated this was a violation of their 'privacy rights'.....where does it say in COTUS, foreigners have 'privacy rights' when being investigated for terrorist ties before they arrive in the US??
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Your link specifically deals with illegal immigrants. Tell me whayt COTUS protections apply to persons living outside the US ?
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Be gentle here. The poor kid's just a "liberal" and that makes it a very safe bet that not-so-much as even one personal reading of the Constitution ever happened, much as is true of the "Let's celebrate Diveristy Day and hug a muslim!" crowd having NEVER actually read the koran.
 
With "liberals"... well...it's always ALL about "feelings". I fear that their ever even attempting actual THOUGHT or LOGIC of any kind would almost certainly cause them irreparable harm.
 
"there are good reasons to accept refugees....." Name even ONE for accepting in a mass of mostly male muslims of military age?...And btw; why was it all these "noble" young "men" somehow managed to find the "strength" of true "character" to leave pretty much ALL their women and children behind to be then defenselessly slaughtered in a frikkin' war zone anyway?
 
"...Umm...haven't even their very own neighboring (and of course, oh-so-loving) muslim nations denied them entry for "reasons of security"?"

S.A. and Jordan at least have accepted tens and hundreds of thousands.

Would ignorance of that make you a low information voter, or a victim of deliberate misinformation supplied by your programmers?

Or just like playing the ostrich in the group?

I answered your loaded "question"

I also answered The Question.

You either don't read, or are functionally illiterate, or are so blinded by your hate that you can not see.

You also apparently do not care much for what your Jesus taught.

Gonna' tell him he was wrong, call him a few names, and ridicule his views too?

One of the tings he taught was to be compassionate and do the right thing in spite of our fear, even if that fear is justified and well deserved.

There is a difference between refugees and the "barbarian hordes" you are so afraid of. Vetting them is not my job. When I say I do not care, I mean I do not care if we take any, as in I am not pushing for the US to take them. It is the humanitarian thing to do, IF we can adequately vet them AND they are truly in need.

Yes, we have benefited greatly from immigration. A great number of "our" greatest accompishments and industries were made possible and developed by immigrants, including "those dirty jews", Irish criminals, former Nazis and former communists. Who knows what talent we may "acquire"?

BTW, my reference for the Constitution is The Heritage Guide to the Constitution, and I have not only read it, but refer to it often.

All the way through, more than once.

Same for the bible.

Have you?

Since you do not read, and your posts are much like a broken record, you join Petey in the aren't worth any further response crowd.

Ciao'
 
Eolsen's incorrect statement:

" Malik was not a citizen, thus had no rights to be violated, be it the 4th or 1st Amendment."
 
Kev3188 said:
John 13:34
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Nope, not when you have evil hiding amongst them.

How many Americans you willing to sacrifice to preserve your dedication to political correctness?
 
Another good reason to halt refugees immigration.
 

SWEDEN: MUSLIM MIGRANTS BATTER GAY MAN TO DEATH, WRAP SNAKE AROUND HIS NECK
 

Victim taunted over his sexual orientation during brutal murder.
 
 
A gay man was found murdered, bound and dressed in women’s clothes in his apartment in Bergsjön, reports the Swedish newspaper Expressen.
 
Around his neck a dead snake was found.
 
A 16-year-old is now charged with hate-crime murder. Simultaneously a 19-year-old is prosecuted for aiding and abetting a criminal.
 
According to the prosecutor, the motive for the murder was to violate the victim because of his sexual orientation.
 
– I am very afraid of snakes, how could I have put it there? asked the 16-year-old during the police interrogation.
 
The two accused are unaccompanied refugee children from Morocco in North Africa, who went to the gay man’s apartment in Bergsjön in June.
 
The 16-year-old’s blood and thus his DNA was found on the dead snake. Otherwise, the main evidence is a film from the murder scene found on the accused’s mobile phone. The film was deleted but could be recreated by police technicians and shows the battered, bound and humiliated man lying on the floor in his own apartment. [….] The so-called street children from Morocco and other North African countries are, according to a intelligence report from the Border Police in Stockholm, particularly criminal, writes the newspaper.
 
January 18, 2010 – The half-naked corpse of Myra Chanel Ical, a 51-year-old trans woman of color, was found in a vacant lot in Houston, Texas.[127]
March 30, 2010 – Amanda Gonzalez-Andujar, a 29-year-old Latina trans woman, was found dead in her Queens, New York apartment. The autopsy found that her attacker, Rasheen Everett, had strangled her then doused her body with bleach.[128]
April 3, 2010 – Toni Alston, a black 44-year-old transgender woman, was shot in the front door of her home in West Charlotte, North Carolina.[129]
May 7, 2010 – Dana A. "Chanel" Larkin, a 26-year-old black trans woman who worked as a prostitute, was shot three times in the head by her client, Andrew Olacirequi, after she asked him if he was okay with them having sex despite her male genitalia. She was found dead on the pavement of a Milwaukee street.[130]
June 21, 2010 – Sandy Woulard, a 28-year-old trans woman, was shot in the chest in South Side, Chicago. A passing motorist found her lying in the street, and she was pronounced dead at the hospital.[131]
October 3, 2010 – A 30-year-old male known as "la Reina" (the Queen), Bryan Almonte, 17, and Brian Cepeda, 17, were kidnapped by a homophobic group of youths calling themselves the Latin King Goonies, sodomized by foreign objects including a plunger and baseball bat, burned with cigarettes, and tortured for hours. One of the teenage victims had wanted to join the gang the attackers were part of, but when members saw him with the 30-year-old, they later picked him up and took him to an abandoned apartment and asked him if the two had had sex. When the teenager responded positively, he was beaten and sodomized. The gang later picked up the second teenager whom they had also seen with the 30-year-old and repeated the process. They then lured the 30-year-old to the building with the promise of a party. When he arrived with alcohol, the gang tied him up and tortured him and made the 17-year-old burn him with cigarettes. They then robbed the man's 40-year-old brother, coercing him by putting a cellphone to his ear so he could hear his brother beg to pay them.[132][133][134]
September 11, 2010 – Victoria Carmen White, a 28-year-old black transgender woman, died of bullet wounds in her New Jersey apartment. It is believed she was targeted by her killer, Alrashim Chambers, for her gender identity.[135]
October 14, 2010 – Stacey Blahnik Lee, a 31-year-old black trans woman, was found murdered in her Philadelphia home by her boyfriend.[136]
November 17, 2010 – 18-year-old Joshua Wilkerson was found dead in a field in Pearland, Texas, after being beaten to death and set on fire by a friend of 5 years, Hermilio Moralez. This was supposedly a retaliation to unwanted sexual advances.[137]
January 11, 2011 – Chrissie Bates, a 45-year-old transgender woman, was stabbed to death in her downtown Minneapolis apartment. Arnold Darwin Waukazo was sentenced to 367 months in prison for the murder.[138]
February 19, 2011 – Tyra Trent, a black 25-year-old trans woman, was found strangled to death in a vacant house.[139]
April 2011 – Kevin Pennington, a gay 28-year-old male, was kidnapped and severely beaten in a Kentucky park by two men shouting anti gay epithets. David Jason Jenkins and Anthony Ray Jenkins face possible life sentences for anti gay hate crime.[140] On March 15, 2012, the Kentucky State Police assisted the FBI in arresting David Jenkins, Anthony Jenkins, Mable Jenkins, and Alexis Jenkins of Partridge, KY for the beating of Kevin Pennington during a late-night attack in April 2011 at Kingdom Come State Park,[141][142] near Cumberland. The push came from the gay-rights group Kentucky Equality Federation, whose president, Jordan Palmer, began lobbying the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky in August 2011[143] to prosecute after stating he had no confidence in the Harlan County Commonwealth's Attorney to act.[144] "I think the case's notoriety may have derived in large part from the Kentucky Equality Federation efforts," said Harvey, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky.[145] Mable Jenkins, and Alexis Jenkins plead guilty.[145]
April 22, 2011 – Chrissy Lee Polis,[146] a 22-year-old trans woman, was beaten in a violent struggle by two African-American women for entering the women's bathroom in Baltimore County, Maryland, which triggered her to have a seizure. A McDonald's employee, who was later fired, filmed the encounter and released the film on the internet; it since went viral. Teonna Monae Brown, 19, pleaded guilty to first-degree assault and a hate crime in the beating, and was sentenced to 5 years in prison, plus three years of supervised probation. The other woman was charged as a juvenile and committed to a juvenile detention facility.[147] See: 2011 Rosedale, Maryland beating
June 2011 – Rosita Hernandez, a Cuban trans woman, was stabbed to death in Miami.[148]
June 5, 2011 – CeCe McDonald, a young African American trans woman, was attacked outside a tavern shortly after midnight in Minneapolis, Minnesota.[149] CeCe fatally stabbed her attacker with a pair of scissors.[150] She was subsequently convicted of manslaughter and jailed for 19 months in a men's prison.[151]
July 20, 2011 – Lashai Mclean, a 23-year-old African American trans woman, was shot to death in Northeast Washington DC.[152]
August 11, 2011 – Camila Guzman, a Latina transgender woman, was found murdered in her apartment in East Harlem, Manhattan.[153]
September 8, 2011 – Cameron Nelson, a 32-year-old gay man, was attacked at his place of employment in Utah.[154]
October 11, 2011 – Shelley Hilliard, a black transgender teen who had been reported missing, had her burnt torso identified by police in Detroit.[155] Her killer, 30-year-old Qasim Raqib, was sentenced on March 6, 2012 to 25–40 years in jail.[156]
November 15, 2011 – Danny Vega, a 58-year-old Asian-American gay man who worked as a hairdresser in Rainier Valley, Seattle was beaten and robbed as he was taking a walk. The beating left Vega in a coma from which he later died.[157]
November 17, 2011 – Cassidy Nathan Vickers, a 32-year-old black transgender woman, died from a fatal gunshot wound to the chest in Hollywood. Her killer, who is still unidentified, is suspected of also attempting to rob and non-fatally shoot another black transgender woman on the same day.[158]
December 17, 2011 – Charlie Hernandez, a 26-year-old who was openly gay, was stabbed to death following a brawl that included anti-gay slurs that occurred with two men after he accidentally stepped on some sunglasses.[159]
December 24, 2011 – Dee Dee Pearson, a 31-year-old transgender woman, died from bullet wounds in Kansas City, Missouri. Kenyan L. Jones was charged with second-degree murder and armed criminal action. Jones told police he paid to have sexual relations with Ms Pearson, believing her to be a cisgender woman, but hours after having sex with her, discovered she was not.[160] Angered by what he considered to be a deception, he got a 9mm-caliber handgun, found Ms Pearson, and killed her.[161] Kenyan L. Jones was arrested on suspicion of her murder.[162]
December 29, 2011 – The body of Githe Goines, a black 23-year-old trans woman[163] who had been reported missing 2 weeks beforehand, was found in a scrapheap. An autopsy set that the time of her death as much as 2 days before her body was discovered, and that she had been strangled.[164]
January 21, 2012 – Crain Conaway, a black 47-year-old trans woman, was found dead in her home in Oceanside, California.[165] Tyree Paschall Monday was arrested in connection with her murder.[166]
February 2, 2012 – JaParker "Deoni" Jones, a 23-year-old black trans woman, was stabbed in the head while waiting at a Metro bus stop in Washington DC.[167]
February 2012 – Cody Rogers, an 18-year-old teenager, was brutally assaulted and targeted with homophobic slurs at a party after defending a female friend who was also attacked.[168]
March 24, 2012 – Several transgender and crossdressing people were shot at and robbed in Florida by a man, suspected to be De Los Santos. 23-year-old Tyrell Jackson was fatally wounded in the shooting, which also injured 20-year-old Michael Hunter.[169]
April 3, 2012 – Coko Williams, a black trans woman, was found murdered in East Detroit, Michigan. The homicide may have been related to Coko's involvement in sex work.[170]
April 16, 2012 – Paige Clay, 23, a black trans woman, was found dead, with a bullet wound to her face in West Garfield Park, Chicago. The death was ruled as a homicide.[171]
April 21, 2012 – Eric Unger, a 23-year-old gay man living in Illinois, was attacked by a group of men on the way home from a party, while they shouted anti-gay epithets at him. The investigation is ongoing.[172]
April 29, 2012 – Brandy Martell, a 37-year-old trans woman of color, was murdered in Oakland, California.[173]
May 2012 – Max Pelofske, a 21-year-old gay man, was beaten by a group of youths at a party in Minnesota. Pelofske claims it was a hate crime, but police disagree.[174]
June 5, 2012 – Kardin Ulysse, a black 14-year-old boy, was attacked in the cafeteria of Roy Mann Junior High School by another group of boys. He was called anti-gay slurs and sustained damage to the cornea of one of his eyes, leaving him blinded. Ulysse's parents planned on suing the city for failing to supervise its students properly.[175]
June 23, 2012 – Mollie Olgin, 19 years old, and her girlfriend, Kristene Chapa, 18 years old, were found shot in the head near Violet Andrews Park in Portland, Texas. Olgin died at the scene and Chapa survived. Law enforcement has said there is no evidence to suggest that the incident is a hate crime.[176] The Human Rights Campaign and Equality Texas urged a thorough investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI and Portland police to find the shooter.[177]
July 5, 2012 – Tracy Johnson, a 40-year-old black trans woman, was found dead from gunshot wounds in Baltimore, Maryland.[178]
August 14, 2012 – Tiffany Gooden, a 19-year-old black trans woman, was found murdered on the second floor of an abandoned building in Chicago. An autopsy verified that she had been stabbed to death. Notably, the body of Paige Clay, another young black trans woman, was discovered in April 3 blocks away from where Tiffany was found. The pair were known as friends.[179]
August 18, 2012 – Kendall Hampton, a 26-year-old black trans woman, died of gunshot wounds. Eugene Carlos Dukes was arrested in early September for her murder, and indicted later that month.[180]
August 26, 2012 – Deja Jones, a 33-year-old black trans woman, was shot to death in Miami. No arrest has yet been made.[181]
September 3, 2012 – The body of Kyra Cordova, a 27-year-old trans woman, was found in a wooded area in Frankford, Philadelphia.[182]
October 15, 2012 – Janette Tovar, a 43-year-old trans woman was murdered by her partner, Jonathan Kenney, according to police, who beat her and slammed her head into concrete. He was later arrested for her murder.[183]
March 1, 2013 – Sondra Scarber addressed a parent about her girlfriend's son being bullied at Seabourn Elementary School in Mesquite, Texas, and was beaten by him when he realized that she was a lesbian.[184]
May 17, 2013 – Mark Carson, a 32-year old black gay man,[185] was shot to death by another man who trailed and taunted him and a friend as they walked down the street in Greenwich Village, New York. When the two friends ignored the assailant's questions, the man began yelling anti-gay slurs and asked one of them, "You want to die tonight?" Elliot Morales, 33, was arrested briefly after the shooting and charged with murder and weapons charges on May 19.[186] According to police, Morales said he shot Carson because he was "acting tough".[187] Morales pleaded not guilty on June 19, 2013.[188]
November 4, 2013 – Sasha Fleischman, an agender (neither male nor female) 18-year-old, had their skirt set on fire while they were sleeping on an AC Transit bus in Oakland, California. Police arrested 16-year-old Richard Thomas and charged him as an adult with aggravated mayhem, assault by means likely to produce great bodily injury, and hate-crime enhancements. Thomas admitted to police that he had started the fire and that he did it because he was "homophobic."[189]
December 31, 2013 – A fire was started in the stairway of a gay nightclub in Seattle, which was quickly extinguished. After suspect Musab Mohammaed Masari had told a friend that "homosexuals should be exterminated", an informer from the Muslim community told the FBI Masamari may have also been planning terrorist attacks. The native of Benghazi Libya was arrested on his way to Turkey. On July 13, 2014, Masmari was sentenced to 10 years on federal arson charges.[190]
June 1, 2014 – Ahmed Said, 27, and Dwone Anderson-Young, 23, were killed execution-style shortly after midnight in the Leschi neighborhood of Seattle shortly after they left a gay nightclub. Both victims were gay, and Ahmed was apparently lured by being contacting on grindr, a social app popular with gays. Anderson-Young was receiving a ride home from Ahmed Said. The case was soon investigated as a possible hate crime. Both Said and Anderson-Young were shot multiple times; Anderson-Young died inside Said's car, while Said died immediately outside.[191] Suspect Ali Muhammad Brown has confessed to killing Said, Anderson-Young, and two men in Seattle and New Jersey, both of whom weren't gay. Brown had previously been convicted of bank fraud and is believed to be in support of Muslim terrorists in Somalia. He told investigators that he was guided strictly by his faith, and that the killings were "just" because they were in retaliation for actions by the U.S. government in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.[192]
February 1, 2015 -- Taja DeJesus, 36, a trans woman of color, was found stabbed to death in the Bayview neighborhood of San Francisco, California.[193]
April 13, 2015 – Ron Lane was shot dead by a former student, identified as Kenneth M. Stancil III, who he had supervised at the campus print shop. His mother made unconfirmed allegations that Lane, who was gay, made unwanted sexual advances towards Stancil. The shooting was investigated as a hate crime.[194]
 
October 3, 2010 – A 30-year-old male known as "la Reina" (the Queen), Bryan Almonte, 17, and Brian Cepeda, 17, were kidnapped by a homophobic group of youths calling themselves the Latin King Goonies, sodomized by foreign objects including a plunger and baseball bat, burned with cigarettes, and tortured for hours. One of the teenage victims had wanted to join the gang the attackers were part of, but when members saw him with the 30-year-old, they later picked him up and took him to an abandoned apartment and asked him if the two had had sex. When the teenager responded positively, he was beaten and sodomized. The gang later picked up the second teenager whom they had also seen with the 30-year-old and repeated the process. They then lured the 30-year-old to the building with the promise of a party. When he arrived with alcohol, the gang tied him up and tortured him and made the 17-year-old burn him with cigarettes. They then robbed the man's 40-year-old brother, coercing him by putting a cellphone to his ear so he could hear his brother beg to pay them.[132][133][134]
 
Ifly2 said:
October 3, 2010 – A 30-year-old male known as "la Reina" (the Queen), Bryan Almonte, 17, and Brian Cepeda, 17, were kidnapped by a homophobic group of youths calling themselves the Latin King Goonies, sodomized by foreign objects including a plunger and baseball bat, burned with cigarettes, and tortured for hours. One of the teenage victims had wanted to join the gang the attackers were part of, but when members saw him with the 30-year-old, they later picked him up and took him to an abandoned apartment and asked him if the two had had sex. When the teenager responded positively, he was beaten and sodomized. The gang later picked up the second teenager whom they had also seen with the 30-year-old and repeated the process. They then lured the 30-year-old to the building with the promise of a party. When he arrived with alcohol, the gang tied him up and tortured him and made the 17-year-old burn him with cigarettes. They then robbed the man's 40-year-old brother, coercing him by putting a cellphone to his ear so he could hear his brother beg to pay them.[132][133][134]
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So then you endorse this apparently?
 
EastUS1 said:
"there are good reasons to accept refugees....." Name even ONE for accepting in a mass of mostly male muslims of military age?...And btw; why was it all these "noble" young "men" somehow managed to find the "strength" of true "character" to leave pretty much ALL their women and children behind to be then defenselessly slaughtered in a frikkin' war zone anyway?
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Err....I thought BaRack said he was just letting old lady's and children in! Wtf....
 
 

eolesen said:
Hmm. Wasn't aware that the Constitution was an issue here. Malik was not a citizen, thus had no rights to be violated, be it the 4th or 1st Amendment.

The funny part is that there are claims that refugees will be vetted to the same standard as visa applicants. This is the standard that some people are afraid will be applied.

The Obama Administration didn't want to be embarrassed by using someone's social media presence as a weighting factor. Meanwhile, we see planes being diverted, schools being evacuated, etc. based on what someone posts on social media, so why wouldn't we want it used as a factor on whether or not someone should or shouldn't be given free roam of the country?

Again, these are non-citizens, non-residents. Once they gain entry, it's too late to do anything about it.

 
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Depends if it's in the US or out of the US borders.
 
http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub
 
In particular, foreign nationals are generally entitled to the equal protection of the laws, to political freedoms of speech and association, and to due process requirements of fair procedure where their lives, liberty, or property are at stake. 
 
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Malik was in the US and as such she was entitled to the same rights that you have (except voting .. running for office...).  
 
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