Disgusting

[delldude]

Eight years and out, unbelievable, Plaxico Burress shot himself and was sentenced to two years..

He dropped the ball a lot in the 'Burgh.......and now socially it came to bite him the secret recesses of his existence.....

 

[Ralph]

The topic is the Lockerbie bomber. Those of you who tried to make this into an anti-health care reform/anti-President Obama thread have had your posts deleted. Time off can also be awarded if you need some time to figure out how to stay on topic.

 

[delldude]

I thought in order to be a 'martyr' had to die fighting for the cause. Just like the kamikazes during WWII had to die trying to take out the enemy. If they came home and landed ... well that just did not happen.

I seriously doubt they would have released him if medical care were an option.

He got released by the "enemy". Everyone knows it happened. They can no longer say we have no compassion. I think it was a game well played.

And now a hero to the cause and soon to be a martyr.....

The goal, motive, and the whole aim is the establishment of the truth. Jihad is the means for establishing the truth, and may lead to martyrdom, but does not necessarily lead to being killed for it in the battlefield, although it necessarily involves the continuous Holy Struggle, and death in the cause of the struggle.

We may therefore conclude that there is neither jihad nor martyrdom outside the realm of truth, that martyrdom applies only when it is preceded by jihad, that jihad is an inclusive struggle for the cause of the truth, that a mujahid dies the death of a martyr even though he does not fall on the battlefield. He dies as a martyr even though he is not killed, on the condition that he stays loyal to the divine truth and stands ready to fight for the truth and to defend it at all costs, even at the cost of his own life. He is a mujahid while he lives, and a martyr if he dies or is killed for it.

Good read for infidels......

 

[777 fixer]

777,

Dropping bombs and the compassionate release are not the same thing. Dropping bombs is what we are expected to do and is what terrorists say we will do and is what they use to justify their actions toward the US. It is also what they use to get more recruits.

What I am saying is that we are being portrayed as cold, heartless and repressive. Holding this man in jail till he dies would feed that perception that is being propagated. Releasing this guy (as distasteful as it is) goes against the image that the terrorist are trying to pin on the US. I have no idea if someone will think twice. he possibility does exist. Just as showing a bit of respect to the terrorist sited in the article above garnered more information, this too might yield fruit. Keeping him jail till he dies does nothing other than satisfy revenge. I prefer the option of perhaps saving someone from a similar fate.

So dropping bombs on Orthodox Christian Serbians in order to protect Muslims is what terrorists expected us to do? I seriously doubt that. Chances are they probably expected us to help the Serbians if we were truly as bad as they say we are.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

Seems those those think the release was all about the almighty buck or pound may be right:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ddafis-son.html

Lockerbie bomber's release linked to trade deal, claims Gaddafi's son
Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s son, Saif, claimed the release of the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi, was linked to trade deals between Britain and Libya

 

[dapoes]

Seems those those think the release was all about the almighty buck or pound may be right:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ddafis-son.html

Lockerbie bomber's release linked to trade deal, claims Gaddafi's son
Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s son, Saif, claimed the release of the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi, was linked to trade deals between Britain and Libya

It really no big shocker. Britain has surrendered to Islam for awhile now.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

It really no big shocker. Britain has surrendered to Islam for awhile now.

Great, but quite disturbing, link. Cal Thomas is usually somewhat to the right for my tastes, but this is a good article. The UK needs someone like Hirsi Ali.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

 

[Garfield1966]

So dropping bombs on Orthodox Christian Serbians in order to protect Muslims is what terrorists expected us to do? I seriously doubt that. Chances are they probably expected us to help the Serbians if we were truly as bad as they say we are.

I think that their expectation is that we react with violence. With what and to whom is irrelevant. We bomb something/someone and people die. That's all they need to further their story.

 

[Freedom4all]

I think that their expectation is that we react with violence. With what and to whom is irrelevant. We bomb something/someone and people die. That's all they need to further their story.

That never stopped them before. Your comment shows the basic misconception why Islamic extremism exists in the first place. It is not peace and coexistence they are seeking.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

Lockerbie memories:
1988: Debris of a disaster
Pan Am flight 103 was just 38 minutes into its flight to New York when the bomb hidden in its luggage hold exploded.
The aircraft disintegrated and plunged several thousand feet onto the town of Lockerbie in south-west Scotland, killing all on board and 11 people on the ground.

You sent us some of your memories of the atrocity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness...000/3332069.stm

 

[Freedom4all]

Lockerbie memories:
1988: Debris of a disaster
Pan Am flight 103 was just 38 minutes into its flight to New York when the bomb hidden in its luggage hold exploded.
The aircraft disintegrated and plunged several thousand feet onto the town of Lockerbie in south-west Scotland, killing all on board and 11 people on the ground.

You sent us some of your memories of the atrocity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness...000/3332069.stm

I remember when it happen and was looking at a story about the event in wither Time or Newsweek, cant recall. It had this rather gruesome picture of a guy who had got caught in a tree, dangling and both his feet were gone at the ankles. It something i never forgot.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

I remember when it happen and was looking at a story about the event in wither Time or Newsweek, cant recall. It had this rather gruesome picture of a guy who had got caught in a tree, dangling and both his feet were gone at the ankles. It something i never forgot.

After the Achille Lauro hijacking back in the 80's, the hijackers were being flown from Egypt to a safe haven (Algeria?). Their plane was intercepted by US Navy F-14s and diverted to Sicily, where the hijackers were turned over to the Italians. (She ship was Italian-flagged) Unfortunately, they were released well before the end of their sentences (humaniatarian grounds?); the terrorist who shoved the wheelchair-bound American tourist off the ship was given a long sentence. He was also given a weekend furlough from prison, from which he failed to return.

Although I disagreed with most of what Reagan did, I applaud this move. How I wish the same thing had been done the moment al-Megrahi's plane entered international airspace. (Only this time, no handing over to the Europeans) I further wish that Robert Gibbs will be asked if such action had been contemplated by President Obama.

After 20 years, two things stick in my mind as much as the image of the plane's shattered nose section. They still bring a tear to my eyes: The video of the woman collapsing to the floor at JFK, wailing "my baby, my baby!" And the note from a passenger who had deplaned at Heathrow: "To the little girl in the red dress who made my flight from Frankfurt so fun, You didn't deserved this".

The release of al-Megrahi has saddened and disgusted me to a surprising degree. Shame on Kenny McAkskill. Shame on Scotland!

 

[tech2101]

I further wish that Robert Gibbs will be asked if such action had been contemplated by President Obama.

You could not resist turning this into an Obama issue.

The President made a statement on this:

Barack Obama attacks decision to free Lockerbie bomber

 

[tech2101]

Talk is cheap!

Q: What did he do?

A:Not one single thing!

Boy next time I need a sternly worded letter I now know who to contact

Maybe he should have ordered the bombing of Scotland for releasing him.

Better yet, shoot down the plane. That would show them!

Any other suggestions?

 

[Freedom4all]

Maybe Obama will play a round of golf with Moammar Qadaffi next month when he is here next month in his vacation home in Jersey. Across the Hudson in Englewood.