Kev3188
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I already have. You must've missed it.southwind said:
DL Terminates Labor Activist Kip Hedges
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don't ask him to back up what he says, soutwind.
he's just commiserating
he's just commiserating
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no, I do cite what I write.
You and others just don't happen to like those facts so you say they are made up.
besides, Kev requested that we consider that there is a place for facts and for just commiserating at the neighborhood bar.
Talking about network and strategic issues is pretty black and white - and there is no commiserating in them.
You and others just don't happen to like those facts so you say they are made up.
besides, Kev requested that we consider that there is a place for facts and for just commiserating at the neighborhood bar.
Talking about network and strategic issues is pretty black and white - and there is no commiserating in them.
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Not what I said at all, but you already know that.
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Start at page 1, and stop to read any post w/a smoking monkey for an avatar.
Keep going, and you'll find what you're looking for...
Keep going, and you'll find what you're looking for...
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Another update from Kip:
"Season of hope - As I was walking out of Lindbergh Terminal in MSP after having been fired, I was not thinking this would be a season of hope for me. My mind was focused on my personal circumstances and my family.
In the weeks since then I have experienced a tidal wave of support, of union solidarity and of human solidarity. So many of my coworkers on the ramp, ticket counter and from In Flight have kept me in the game. The union movement of Minnesota and beyond has my back in a major way.
In stations across the country our union card count is going up. More people are joining the effort. According to flight attendant leaders, who have become my close friends, that group is seeing union cards flowing into IAM Headquarters. They are poised to file for a union representation election. Airport workers at Airserve, DGS, OTG and other employers just won 8 paid sick days per year from the Metropolitan Airport Commission. Next step - a $15/hour minimum wage for every worker at MSP.
These forward steps are the fruit of the labor of thousands of workers who have decided to raise their voices. If Delta's intention was to chill the atmosphere for workers' rights by firing me, precisely the opposite has occurred. For me this is a season of hope."
"Season of hope - As I was walking out of Lindbergh Terminal in MSP after having been fired, I was not thinking this would be a season of hope for me. My mind was focused on my personal circumstances and my family.
In the weeks since then I have experienced a tidal wave of support, of union solidarity and of human solidarity. So many of my coworkers on the ramp, ticket counter and from In Flight have kept me in the game. The union movement of Minnesota and beyond has my back in a major way.
In stations across the country our union card count is going up. More people are joining the effort. According to flight attendant leaders, who have become my close friends, that group is seeing union cards flowing into IAM Headquarters. They are poised to file for a union representation election. Airport workers at Airserve, DGS, OTG and other employers just won 8 paid sick days per year from the Metropolitan Airport Commission. Next step - a $15/hour minimum wage for every worker at MSP.
These forward steps are the fruit of the labor of thousands of workers who have decided to raise their voices. If Delta's intention was to chill the atmosphere for workers' rights by firing me, precisely the opposite has occurred. For me this is a season of hope."
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with all due respect, and I do mean it, people were saying an election would be called years before someone called Kip (did I get it right?) a martyr for the cause.
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Your posts are the only place I've ever heard anyone try and frame him as a martyr.
Personally, I think he would find the idea very off putting.
Personally, I think he would find the idea very off putting.
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weAAsles used the exact word.
I'm sure you will find it hard to find but he did.... should I help you?
I'm sure you will find it hard to find but he did.... should I help you?
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I'll take your word for it. Good for him.
Doesn't change my thoughts on it.
Doesn't change my thoughts on it.
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WorldTraveler said:
I think what I said and if you would like you can be the one to find and post my quote is that Delta may have caused the man to be a Martyr when they terminated Kip for his labor activities?
That doesn't imply that the man called himself that or is comfortable with the label. But you can paint it of course however you'd like.
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no, he didn't call himself that at all.
You were the source of the use of the term regardless of how it was intended.
He wants to make a change and I can respect that.
Martyr is a bit much.
You were the source of the use of the term regardless of how it was intended.
He wants to make a change and I can respect that.
Martyr is a bit much.
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BTW Kip just posted his Unemployment Insurance Approval letter. It stated that he was NOT fired for any misconduct or violations of company policy. There findings determined that he was fired for making disparaging remarks against his employer.
He was fired for exercising his First Amendment rights in other words.
Maybe Kev can get Kip's approval to post the letter?
He was fired for exercising his First Amendment rights in other words.
Maybe Kev can get Kip's approval to post the letter?
