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thanks dawg
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WorldTraveler said:you might have read the 310-300s stats in some book but I can absolutely assure you that they could not - even the new build versions - make it from many of the Europe cities on which DL used them to JFK, CVG, and DTW in any kind of heavy wind and diversions. I worked AND rode on enough 310s to know that the 767 is and always will be far more aircraft than the 310 could ever dream of.
so You are now smarter than Airbus? Okay WT, whatever you have to tell yourself.WorldTraveler said:you might have read the 310-300s stats in some book but I can absolutely assure you that they could not - even the new build versions - make it from many of the Europe cities on which DL used them to JFK, CVG, and DTW in any kind of heavy wind without diversions. I worked AND rode on enough 310s to know that the 767 is and always will be far superior aircraft than the 310 could ever dream to be.
The 330, OTOH, is an outstanding aircraft.
I don't think there is a DL 310-300 that was ever in the air for more than 10 hours. 763ERs regularly go past 12 hours IN THE AIR.
thanks for the seat counts.
LAX-HKG was one of DL's bigger mistakes by using an aircraft that couldn't operate the route no matter how cheap it was to acquire.
Delta did too. routes like JFK-TXL were regular on the 310.FrugalFlyerv2.0 said:
I have no idea what routes DL tried to use the A310s on or what the cabin configuration was.
But to state that the DL aircraft could not fly the JFK-Europe routes is a little strange.
I do know that (as mentioned by eolesen) OK used their A310s on PRG-YYZ and PRG-JFK which is about 4000 miles.
But I also know that QN and 2T used A310s on YYZ-Europe summer charters and they did have to make a stop westbound. I have no idea whether it was a natural routing or something that was technically needed.
By that logic:WorldTraveler said:someone forgot to tell AA that they bid for JFK-HND, it didn't work, and they stopped it.
they had their chance and blew it.
And DL tried both DTW and SEA and they didn't work, LAX doesn't exactly look like a stellar performer. The reason DL was awarded LAX over AA is when they applied in May 2010 they filed to use the higher capacity 744s over AAs low density 772s, and of course DL quickly adjusted capacity to 772 then 332 and now 763s.WorldTraveler said:Delta said it’s studying American’s filing, “which appears to have no merit.”“We are fully compliant with the DOT’s conditions regarding the use of Haneda frequencies,” Trebor Banstetter, a Delta spokesman, said in an e-mail. Reducing flights between some cities on a seasonal basis is a widespread practice among airlines, he said.someone forgot to tell AA that they bid for JFK-HND, it didn't work, and they stopped it.they had their chance and blew it.