For all to read.

[Solidarity]

THE RAILWAY LABOR ACT
Seventh. Change in pay, rules, or working conditions contrary to agreement or to section 156 forbidden
No carrier, its officers, or agents shall change the rates of pay, rules, or working conditions of its employees, as a class, as embodied in agreements except in the manner prescribed in such agreements or in section 156 of this title.
§ 156. Procedure in changing rates of pay, rules, and working conditions
Carriers and representatives of the employees shall give at least thirty days' written notice of an intended change in agreements affecting rates of pay, rules, or working conditions, and the time and place for the beginning of conference between the representatives of the parties interested in such intended changes shall be agreed upon within ten days after the receipt of said notice, and said time shall be within the thirty days provided in the notice. In every case where such notice of intended change has been given, or conferences are being held with reference thereto, or the services of the Mediation Board have been requested by either party, or said Board has proffered its services, rates of pay, rules, or working conditions shall not be altered by the carrier until the controversy has been finally acted upon, as required by section 155 of this title, by the Mediation Board, unless a period of ten days has elapsed after termination of conferences without request for or proffer of the services of the Mediation Board.

See attached website.

http://www.nmb.gov/documents/rla.html

 

[Doc]

Ok I read now what

 

[UPNAWAY]

:down:

Man unions have really gone down hill. Almost pointless now! Do you even have a point?

Some of you may wish to try and educate yourselves on economics. Lets start with an article about how outsourcing is actually good for the US!
(Know before everyone flames me, I think the US REZ should be in house are at the very least educated native English speakers.)
What I am talking about is more general, the global economy vs the normal union mantra of buy American.
That whole concept gets really conveluted when one loooks at how many people Toyota employees in the US or how Boeing can build a AC with many foriegn parts and even assemblied in China (now which they are talking about) and an Airbus can have as many US Parts as the Boeing.
Well good read.......
http://finance.yahoo.com/columnist/article/economist/2074

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

:down:

Man unions have really gone down hill. Almost pointless now! Do you even have a point?

Some of you may wish to try and educate yourselves on economics. Lets start with an article about how outsourcing is actually good for the US!
(Know before everyone flames me, I think the US REZ should be in house are at the very least educated native English speakers.)
What I am talking about is more general, the global economy vs the normal union mantra of buy American.
That whole concept gets really conveluted when one loooks at how many people Toyota employees in the US or how Boeing can build a AC with many foriegn parts and even assemblied in China (now which they are talking about) and an Airbus can have as many US Parts as the Boeing.
Well good read.......
http://finance.yahoo.com/columnist/article/economist/2074

For better or worse, we are entering the global economy. This is going to bring many unpleasant changes to those who are unable to adapt. If the unions do not change, they will be relegated to to the same irrelevant dust heap as David Crosby, beta max tapes, and Bill Clintons wedding vows. (lighten up..ITS A JOKE!)

 

[barbeetantrums]

Keep David Crosby out of it! 😱

 

[careerfurloughee]

:down:

What I am talking about is more general, the global economy vs the normal union mantra of buy American.
That whole concept gets really conveluted when one loooks at how many people Toyota employees in the US or how Boeing can build a AC with many foriegn parts and even assemblied in China (now which they are talking about) and an Airbus can have as many US Parts as the Boeing.
Well good read.......
http://finance.yahoo.com/columnist/article/economist/2074

How do you feel about cabotage?

 

[Solidarity]

So in the next few weeks when the company starts changing our work rules, we should what, just suck up whatever inequality they throw our way because we feel our union has gone down hill, and is no longer effective? If enough of you want to remain passive, then that will be the reality. Is that what we want, for either the good of the airline, the passengers, or our fellow union brothers and sisters? Together we stand, and commence pressuring your union leadership to file a complaint with NMB.

 

[UPNAWAY]

So in the next few weeks when the company starts changing our work rules, we should what, just suck up whatever inequality they throw our way


Yes and if it is a big enough deal you leave and go else where it is called the free market. The unions have created way to many road blocks to the business that make quick changes to the markets almost impossible. Show me a heavly unionized industry that is growing (Gov't doesn't count)! Ultimately you would be better off if your success was based on your perfroamce and not grouped to the collective. Become a free agent and find your best deal!

 

[UPNAWAY]

How do you feel about cabotage?

:unsure:

That is an interesting question.

I am a compitetion guy and think a truly open skies would benefit not only consumers but US carriers tremendiously. I think a lot of the reasonong behind some of the restrictions was not only compitetion but national security. I think that is less an issue today. An Areoflot JFK to LAX flight would not worry me from a security standpoint. I don't see international carries coming here very much some would certianly fly coast to coast but we have way to much compitetion in most markest already. They certianly wouldn't be interested in PHL to ORD for example. Even if the International carries could sell a flight say LH to JFK to ORD and they could sell the JFK to ORD leg how many US customers would even buy that? But on the other hand I see US carriers doing mini hubs in Asia and Europe and flying around the world point to points. The rest of the worlds markets have a lot less compitetion than here in the us and I bet there are some serious cherries to be picked still world wide. Of course if this happens LCC is going to need a lot more wide boddies not only the A350 but the A380 also.

 

[careerfurloughee]

:unsure:

That is an interesting question.

I wasn't clear about your answer. Are you for it or against it?

 

[LGA Fleet Service]

But on the other hand I see US carriers doing mini hubs in Asia and Europe and flying around the world point to points. The rest of the worlds markets have a lot less compitetion than here in the us and I bet there are some serious cherries to be picked still world wide. Of course if this happens LCC is going to need a lot more wide boddies not only the A350 but the A380 also.

Continental Europe is basically saturated with LCC's, how can you think there is a lot less competition than here in the US?

Don't you remember TWA's CDG operation? Pan Am at FRA?

All tried and shuttered.

Your theory about why the public won't buy a LH ticket on PHL-ORD segment can be applied to why won't the EU customer buy a seat on a US flag carrier on say, an AMS-FRA segment.

The days of US flag carriers doing point to point within continental Europe are long gone.