Hexavalent Chromium Law Suit(s)

[bravozulu@afw]

I'MMMMMM Baaaaaack!

IF AA wanted to do something to HELP it's employees. IF AA wanted to DECREASE the financial burden of a JUDGEMENT. IF AA wanted to be RESPONSIBLE:

1. First admit (sing to themselves in the Boardroom) that someone done someone wrong (song)!

2. Tell the TWU Presidents (keep the ATD/International crooks out of the room) that AA is going
to do THIRD PARTY MEDICAL SCREENING for Hexavalent Chromium (including all related
diseases) to ALL of those SRP/OSM Painters/Sanders AND the AMTs that worked on the MBV
Lines, at all bases since C.R. SMITH approved the 'PEPSI' Stripes .

3. Provide for treatment (out of AA's shallow pocket without ANY COST) to EACH SRP/OSM/AMT
that has a 'TRUE POSITIVE' test result from the screening process.

4. Start treating ALL employees like they (the Boardroom Denizens down to the most junior
Planner) would like to be treated. This way IF someone done someone wrong, then after
ADMISSIONS WERE MADE, the Healing, Treatment and Course Correction Processes
would start.

These steps could be applied to ALL AA Policies, Procedures, Employees, Temps and Contract
Workers. This would, in effect, eliminate the ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIPS with the Pilots,
Flight Attendants and TWU Workforce. These steps would help to eliminate the HAZARDOUS WORK ENVIRONMENT (mental more than physical) and its associated HR "PC" HEADACHES.

These steps would make the Contract Negotiations MORE TRANSPARENT, LESS TIME CONSUMMING, AND BETTER FOR ALL PARTIES CONCERNED!!!

I dread going to work, not knowing what EMOTIONAL TEMPER TANTRUM the AO (MIS)manager is going throw at us, each day that he is Present and (NOT) Accountable for!

 

[TWU informer]

My post was aimed at helping any potential plaintiffs out there - and the first thing any lawyer will advise their client is to

STOP POSTING ABOUT IT ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD.

If you think you've been injured, contact a lawyer or privately contact one of the plaintiffs to one of the existing lawsuits. But don't go talking about it and saying things the company lawyers will want to use against you later.

ROFL,

You should know 😛h34r:

 

[tech2101]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I find it hard to believe that AA would have passed an OSHA inspection without having the proper permits in place.

Regardless, with or without a permit, if you're exposed, you're exposed.

The MSDS for the paint used on the stripes is required to be onsite or available online on-demand.

It's pretty easy to see if HexChrom is listed, and the concentration is also listed along with the safety precautions required.

Chromium dust exposure can be prevented by a simple 3m N95 HEPA particulate respirator. You should have been trained annually in the company respiratory protection program, and Hazard Communication Program (HAZCOM). If you are routinely exposed to heavy metals, you should get (required by OSHA) a blood test annually. That is normally reserved for the plating shop, welding and plasma spray areas. I am quite sure that a company like AA has an extensive safety training program. Your union should have insisted on it.

These suits are very difficult to win. If you were over exposed, it is extremely hard to prove negligence on the part of AA especially:

1) If you were trained
2) If you were provided the proper PPE
3) If you were directed to use it as a part of your regular job duties

Good luck.

I do agree with FWAAA. It is a very bad idea to discuss this on any internet bulletin board. You will see all of your posts in the discovery phase...

 

[captianamerica]

Preventing exposure is not as simple as you stated, by wearing a respirator...In Tulsa they had to build a special shower facility for a few blasters in the turbine building, welding area, by heat treat, . They have to shower and change clothes before they go home to prevent contamination with people at home.. And AA was forced to do this also..But have they done it yet for anyone else? Hell no!!!! You take home more on your clothes than you think....And for the blood work, go ask AA to send you out for it annually. They were complaining if you asked for a hepatitis shot after being in contact with a lav....And for your union helping you, HA

Chromium dust exposure can be prevented by a simple 3m N95 HEPA particulate respirator. You should have been trained annually in the company respiratory protection program, and Hazard Communication Program (HAZCOM). If you are routinely exposed to heavy metals, you should get (required by OSHA) a blood test annually. That is normally reserved for the plating shop, welding and plasma spray areas. I am quite sure that a company like AA has an extensive safety training program. Your union should have insisted on it.

These suits are very difficult to win. If you were over exposed, it is extremely hard to prove negligence on the part of AA especially:

1) If you were trained
2) If you were provided the proper PPE
3) If you were directed to use it as a part of your regular job duties

Good luck.

I do agree with FWAAA. It is a very bad idea to discuss this on any internet bulletin board. You will see all of your posts in the discovery phase...

 

[captianamerica]

Preventing exposure is not as simple as you stated, by wearing a respirator...In Tulsa they had to build a special shower facility for a few blasters in the turbine building, welding area, by heat treat, . They have to shower and change clothes before they go home to prevent contamination with people at home.. And AA was forced to do this also..But have they done it yet for anyone else? Hell no!!!! You take home more on your clothes than you think....And for the blood work, go ask AA to send you out for it annually. They were complaining if you asked for a hepatitis shot after being in contact with a lav....And for your union helping you, HA

Chromium dust exposure can be prevented by a simple 3m N95 HEPA particulate respirator. You should have been trained annually in the company respiratory protection program, and Hazard Communication Program (HAZCOM). If you are routinely exposed to heavy metals, you should get (required by OSHA) a blood test annually. That is normally reserved for the plating shop, welding and plasma spray areas. I am quite sure that a company like AA has an extensive safety training program. Your union should have insisted on it.

These suits are very difficult to win. If you were over exposed, it is extremely hard to prove negligence on the part of AA especially:

1) If you were trained
2) If you were provided the proper PPE
3) If you were directed to use it as a part of your regular job duties

Good luck.

I do agree with FWAAA. It is a very bad idea to discuss this on any internet bulletin board. You will see all of your posts in the discovery phase...

 

[tech2101]

Preventing exposure is not as simple as you stated, by wearing a respirator...In Tulsa they had to build a special shower facility for a few blasters in the turbine building, welding area, by heat treat,

Preventing exposure is exactly as I stated. This thread was about sanding paint that had a chromium component. Now you bring up welding? That is totally different. If they provided showers, they went above and beyond the OSHA standard.

If you are going to hang your hat on that for a law suit, good luck...

As for sanding, anyone who is performing that task should be wearing a Tvyek suit, along with the respirator. Did AA refuse to provide you with those?

In my 20 years in the industry, I never washed my uniforms with my family clothes. They were always washed separately.

 

[midnights]

Preventing exposure is exactly as I stated. This thread was about sanding paint that had a chromium component. Now you bring up welding? That is totally different. If they provided showers, they went above and beyond the OSHA standard.

If you are going to hang your hat on that for a law suit, good luck...

As for sanding, anyone who is performing that task should be wearing a Tvyek suit, along with the respirator. Did AA refuse to provide you with those?

In my 20 years in the industry, I never washed my uniforms with my family clothes. They were always washed separately.

AA never refused the use of a jumpsut or a respirator (although we weren't officaly trained on the respirator until a few months after we started as painters). I was the only painter in bay 7 to wear a full face mask and jumpsuit and still had dust in my cloths,hair, eyes and nose when I got home and showered.... no shower available at AFW at the time....So, if there's a lawsuit cause someone got sick or is haveing problems, yes, I would like to know about it for my own health reasons and i'll leave the compensation issue until later if this does in fact affect me....20+ years in the industry and this is the only company that I have to wash my uniforms in the same machine as my family.

 

[captianamerica]

Well if you would read the post , its not the welders, its the blasters in the welding area of the turbine building.. And form what i was told it was OSHA that made them do it..Toxic dust is toxic dust whether it come from sanding paint or blasting paint .. The blasters are not even permitted from wearing there work cloths home, they are sent out... Even if you wash your cloths separate from the families laundry , you still have driven home in your car, now contaminated, and washed them in the laundry, also contaminated.. So you think a little dust bag at the end of a sander is doing anything to help.. Just walk down the 3D
pulse line and watch the cloud of dust the surrounds the plane and dock, its like toxic smog..
So now after all these years , even before this "lawsuit" was even brought up, did AA just now start to inform us of the possible danger..
But what about the people on 3C or 3B that are not even sanding? How are they protected??

Your prob that guy that likes to grind 1422 around everyone else!!!! but as long as u are protected, screw them...

Preventing exposure is exactly as I stated. This thread was about sanding paint that had a chromium component. Now you bring up welding? That is totally different. If they provided showers, they went above and beyond the OSHA standard.

If you are going to hang your hat on that for a law suit, good luck...

As for sanding, anyone who is performing that task should be wearing a Tvyek suit, along with the respirator. Did AA refuse to provide you with those?

In my 20 years in the industry, I never washed my uniforms with my family clothes. They were always washed separately.

 

[eolesen]

Again, what do the MSDS's say regarding the toxicity of paint?