how can this be with the A-Team?
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You can thank our pilots (or more appropriately, the management negotiating team) for that. With the new calculation of hard hours being on the trip rather than segment, our B0 has plummeted from about 60% pre TA to about 40%, directly and significantly impacting our arrival statistics. I can't blame them; it's the unintended consequences of a bad work rule change. Any savings related to the work rule change have been wiped out by poor arrival performance and increased overfly pay thus far. Hopefully there will be some sort of LOA or other incentive put in place to take away the incentive to fly up to the sked block times.
Incentive to help NWA? How can any employee other than you finman have incentive to help this mgmt team out from the cespool they have created, now dubbed 'the new northwest'
I was referring to a financial incentive to the pilots. Basically eliminate the financial incentive they now have to fly up to the sked block. Now that they might not get paid the full value of the sked less actual block on an underfly, they have an incentive to fly up to the sked on every flight. This new flying behavior eliminates the chance of "catching up" a late departure enroute, and thus a late depart results in a late arrival more often than it has in the past.
Pilots aren't dumb. Unlike Jenny, they are very adept at math, and know how to work within the rules to make a few extra bucks.
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The Jenny part was uncalled for....thought better of you finny :down:
Sometimes even the buck ain't worth the hastle. JMO
ps... this isn't the start of a debate. I do not debate you, those that do are only called dumb or inept. I usually grow bored with it, so for the sake of arguing/debating, finman you are always right. 😉
There you have it finny. That would require give and take. Let us turn this around and ask why NWA mgmt didn't just do the right thing and give us our agreed to stock price from the 1993 concession...(among other things)...they have continually raked the the workers over the coals and should expect gratitude? Yes, it seems as if NWA 'knows how to work within the rules'. It is so sad to see their bad faith come back and bite them in the arse. 🙄
jenny@nw
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This is no surprise! I made so much time on my trips!
:wub: I feel loved. Thanks you guys. B)
jimntx
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Well, you are OBVIOUSLY not a pilot. You know that copper wire was invented by two pilots fighting over a dropped penny, don't you?
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LOL....Well, you are OBVIOUSLY not a pilot. You know that copper wire was invented by two pilots fighting over a dropped penny, don't you?
They are a different breed arn't they....
Kev3188
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Just for conversation fodder, I looked up the arrival times for my station for 01-05.Jan.07.
Of the 12 9E arrivals, 4 were late.
Of the 43 NW arrivals, 25 were late.
I only counted arrivals within zero; they were either ontime or they weren't. I also didn't count cancellations, charters (we had several), or repo flights....
Of the 12 9E arrivals, 4 were late.
Of the 43 NW arrivals, 25 were late.
I only counted arrivals within zero; they were either ontime or they weren't. I also didn't count cancellations, charters (we had several), or repo flights....
Still waiting for an answer on the other thread where you say the FAs didn't take as big of a cut as they are saying. Are you just not commenting any more or is the math just getting too difficult to back your position?
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Does the babysitter know you're on the computer?
I don't recall a direct question, but I know that nobody has provided the "math" supporting a 50% pay cut, (when the base wages were cut only 20%). I asked for the breakout of how that large of cut is possible, and provided a template that could be used to lay out the comparison, but received not even the slightest attempt of a response supporting the 50% claim. What is your question to me concerning this?
Kev3188
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This was merely a error of semantics, right? "Only" 20% is still a huge amount of money, no matter how you slice it.
