Hp/us Merger

[1ab]

will it be Sabre

 

[jack mama]

What does HP use?

They talk about IT overhead savings...could be interesting indeed

 

[SpinDoc]

What does HP use?

They talk about IT overhead savings...could be interesting indeed

[post="272023"][/post]​

HP uses AAI for their reservations system.
If AAI is less expensive than SABRE, it may
be beneficial for US to reject the SABRE contract
prior to exiting BK.

AAI seems to work well with HP's web site,
while SABRE has a number of connectivity
issues with US web site. We'll just have to
wait until the ink is dry on the BK exit
before we know who will be the chosen
GDS.

 

[usair_begins_with_u]

there is a better chance of seeing pacer at HP/U than sabre... Sabre was supposed to ease the transition of the AA merger that never happened.

 

[700UW]

There was never going to be a merger with AA, where you getting this stuff?

And US' problem with Sabre was they bought the stripped down cheap version and never went with the top of the line program.

 

[USA320Pilot]

According to former United MEC chairman Rick Dubinsky in a letter to the United pilots written I believe on May 28, 2000 that I have read, along with his comments at a US Airways ALPA MEC meeting I attended, United made its last merger bid for US Airways because American was about to reach a formal deal with Stephen Wolf to acquire the Arlington-based airline.

It's my understanding that American and US Airways held on and off merger talks since 1995.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[hadEnuff]

Bottom line is sabre is a poor system regardless of the version. The system we had before was so much more automated that the present sabre system it is a joke. Someone just filled their pockets on this deal because they had to get one hell of a kick back.

 

[sentrido]

They should go with SAP. 😀

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Maybe it will be Worldspan. Heck, Rakesh Gangwal is CEO, do ya think he'll give a former employee discount? :blink:

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< With Ace Aviation (Air Canada) puting up $72mill., will they be getting any more work from either US Airways, or America West???

 

[justaumechanic]

Do you really need an answer for that question? Lets see.. Fork over 75 million for what purpose? To get nothing in return except some code share flights.. Not likely.

ACE aviation is putting money into the mix so they can add additional Mtc work to their in-house operation. AmericaWest is a big fan of farming out as much of its Mtc work as it can.. No exceptions..

Frank in PIT said it best.. AirCanada is an IAM shop and it will be good for them to get the work.. He also went on to say that all of the Airbus work would be coming to PIT because it says so in the contract.. What Frank fails to address and would not answer is who's contract would survive the merger..

AmericaWest is going to want their contract to survive because it has the most amount of freedoms for them.. The US contract is to restrictive in its current form.

Doug Parker at HP was very clear in saying anyone that is currently on layoff from US Airways is not going to get their job back and bump out an AmericaWest employee.. Not going to happen.. So the games begin..

Expect PIT to close down when the operations center is move to Tempe along with Engineering and Records.. Arizona is much cheaper for them in a business sense. After that is highly likely that the PIT Mtc operation would be reduced to a line operation with minimal staffing.

<_< With Ace Aviation (Air Canada) puting up $72mill., will they be getting any more work from either US Airways, or America West???

[post="272097"][/post]​

 

[whlinder]

IIRC correctly when UA planned to buy US for $60/share, the BOD was authorized to go up to $80/share if AA started a bidding war for US.

But honestly, who doesn't have merger 'talks'?

"Well, what do you think about merging?"
"The routes would work nice but the fleet and employees would be a b*tch"

Other than AA/UA and DL/US, what airlines don't have those talks?

 

[usair_begins_with_u]

Thanks for the backup A320... I'm amazed how little some of these union yes men know about their companies..

Frankly, as a user of both pacer and sabre, pacer was a better system, for both reservations and inventory mgmt. With out getting into lengthy discussion about the philosphophical differences between managing inventory leg based or O&D based, at the end of the day, U paid a crap load of money for Sabre and never got a dime out of the investment... Blame Wolfgang et al for that royal waste of cash, and their head in sky merger aspirations re AA.

IMHO, The new low cost model all airlines seem to be gravitating towards would favor a simpler (more human analyst dependant) leg based inventory mgmt system. No fancy overpriced computer generated optimized demand forecasts can do better than analysts who know their markets.

 

[MCI transplant]

Do you really need an answer for that question? Lets see.. Fork over 75 million for what purpose? To get nothing in return except some code share flights.. Not likely.

ACE aviation is putting money into the mix so they can add additional Mtc work to their in-house operation. AmericaWest is a big fan of farming out as much of its Mtc work as it can.. No exceptions..

Frank in PIT said it best.. AirCanada is an IAM shop and it will be good for them to get the work.. He also went on to say that all of the Airbus work would be coming to PIT because it says so in the contract.. What Frank fails to address and would not answer is who's contract would survive the merger..

AmericaWest is going to want their contract to survive because it has the most amount of freedoms for them.. The US contract is to restrictive in its current form.

Doug Parker at HP was very clear in saying anyone that is currently on layoff from US Airways is not going to get their job back and bump out an AmericaWest employee.. Not going to happen.. So the games begin..

Expect PIT to close down when the operations center is move to Tempe along with Engineering and Records.. Arizona is much cheaper for them in a business sense. After that is highly likely that the PIT Mtc operation would be reduced to a line operation with minimal staffing.

[post="272101"][/post]​

<_< Thanks for the info. To answeer your question, no, I pretty much figured that one out, but I still had to ask. Good Luck to all! Since I'm exTWA I can appreciate what your going through! Signed," Just another one of aa's redheaded step children!"

 

[700UW]

What back up?

Words on a computer screen?

And if you think 320 is a credible source, then I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn for you.