In-house Mtc Vs Outsourcing

[ydk68]

Does anyone know how U is doing with the heavy checks compared to the vendors? :unsure:

 

[PITMTC]

The in-house checks are whippin the vendors. The AB S checks are getting better in completion time over and over. The Q checks are catching up as well. No further problems since the first S checks that were completed in PIT.

 

[ydk68]

The in-house checks are whippin the vendors. The AB S checks are getting better in completion time over and over. The Q checks are catching up as well. No further problems since the first S checks that were completed in PIT.

So why would anyone be concerned about outsoucing?

 

[AP Tech]

For USAirways it seems that employee's have always been a liability vs asset, hopefully this statement is made in regards to the old U and not "New USAirways". It has been proven time after time that inhouse is better whether talking maintenance, reservations or fleet service. I believe the majority of people take pride in their job vs a contractor! Employee=labor costs and U did not want that!!

Hopefully DP will want to run and airline and realize he needs dedicated employee's to accomplish that.

 

[delldude]

So why would anyone be concerned about outsoucing?

sound like a newbie management poster..... 😉

 

[AP Tech]

" whippin "

Isn't that what the vendors do best?

 

[Mr Eagle]

sound like a newbie management poster..... 😉

You And Mr.7 Are The Best thing for US,You Prove That We All Could use some More Voices In this LONELY
WORLD.

 

[delldude]

You And Mr.7 Are The Best thing for US,You Prove That We All Could use some More Voices In this LONELY
WORLD.

my reality of it all IAM post last nite send you home to mama ,tail between your legs?

 

[Mr Eagle]

my reality of it all IAM post last nite send you home to mama ,tail between your legs?

YO TOO FUNNY,WELL WE ALL WILL BE SHOCKED @ The Outcome and Further SAGA.
How Does this sound NEXT MERGER/ US AIRWAYS/ALASKA. MWW

 

[Mr Eagle]

sound like a newbie management poster..... 😉

I must admit I''m puzzled as to why we have mechanics making $25.00+/hr. sitting on tugs and waving in airplanes. I assumed mechanics were there to fix airplanes- a highly skilled task to be sure, not to sit on a tug and push.
Some have said of the IAM that it''s all about dues, the more members, the more dues paid in. It would stand to reason if thats true, more mechanics to do other jobs not related to reparing planes would result in more dues paid to the IAM.
This Why/What/and How USAIRWAYS is in so much Trouble,things we need to Chg.
Attitude is everthing when survival is @ HAND. Like The Airline Industry. MWW

 

[Q2DETX5]

It's not about safety, reliability, or performance. It's not even about cost, short term, per aircraft/ maint. evolution. It's about people, headcount, or warm bodies for the long term. Retirement plans, medical, the miriad costs associated with such a large employee base as well as the costs of command and control over the group. "Load shedding" as many responsibilities as possible. Pulling the union's teeth to allow a freer hand in the operations and eliminate any potential threat or impediment to adapting to a fluid business environment. Thus allowing the implementation of any idea, program, or plan, no matter how insane or potentially disasterous that may come along. The weakest link could be the lack of open, honest communication from the bottom up and honest informed leadership and direction from the top down. The people on the bottom rungs of the operation have and could still knock the socks off any other competitor. They've just been hampered or downright shackled by a company and union management quagmire. The value is there, the potential is there. The desire to use it is not.

 

[700UW]

Mechanics at US/East do not marshall airplanes, after BK1 they only did it at 8 of 89 stations after BK2 it is totally done by ramp.

Dont let the facts get in your way.

We have more mechanics because our fleet is bigger and we actually overhaul airplanes.

 

[robbedagain]

wasnt the outsource company that caused the Beech 1900 to crash back in January of 2003? in CLT the reason?

 

[delldude]

The in-house checks are whippin the vendors.

i kinda thought so,i used to be a lead in heavy...

 

[High Iron]

It's not about safety, reliability, or performance. It's not even about cost, short term, per aircraft/ maint. evolution. It's about people, headcount, or warm bodies for the long term. Retirement plans, medical, the miriad costs associated with such a large employee base as well as the costs of command and control over the group. "Load shedding" as many responsibilities as possible. Pulling the union's teeth to allow a freer hand in the operations and eliminate any potential threat or impediment to adapting to a fluid business environment. Thus allowing the implementation of any idea, program, or plan, no matter how insane or potentially disasterous that may come along. The weakest link could be the lack of open, honest communication from the bottom up and honest informed leadership and direction from the top down. The people on the bottom rungs of the operation have and could still knock the socks off any other competitor. They've just been hampered or downright shackled by a company and union management quagmire. The value is there, the potential is there. The desire to use it is not.

Couldn't have said it better myself....every word.

We now have in this, a perfect wedge-issue. The good intent may be there, but it's something that must be managed and followed up and evaluated by those at the top. We'll just see in how the company/culture transforms and see once and for all if they really really intend to run a sucessful airline, or sell the seed corn and line their pockets.