Iran next?

[delldude1]

 

[delldude1]

 

[delldude1]

 

[Dog Wonder34]

Don’t start something you can’t finish.

 

[KCFlyer22]

Don’t start something you can’t finish.

Not to worry, our allies that we insulted and told that we didn't need them will be happy to help us out after we make the price of the oil they use skyrocket.

 

[Dog Wonder34]

 

[delldude1]

Don’t start something you can’t finish.

Yeah.......not a good idea arguing with the wife.

 

[777 fixer]

 

[777 fixer]

Can we please 🙏 get this thing started?

 

[Dog Wonder34]

TACO Tuesday.

 

[KCFlyer22]

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I think part of Trump's "deal" is to give them the rest of the money that Obama and Biden held back.

 

[WeAAsles]

I think part of Trump's "deal" is to give them the rest of the money that Obama and Biden held back.

The Trump administration (in its second term) has not finalized or publicly released a complete, signed deal with Iran. Instead, it has proposed a comprehensive framework—centered on a reported 15-point ceasefire and peace plan delivered to Iran via Pakistani intermediaries in March 2026—to limit Iran’s nuclear program, curb its regional military activities, and prevent it from acquiring nuclear weapons.


This proposal builds on Trump’s long-standing view that the 2015 JCPOA (Obama-era nuclear deal, which he withdrew from in 2018) was insufficient. The goal is a “better” and more permanent agreement with stricter, longer-term (or indefinite) restrictions, robust verification, and broader scope covering missiles and proxies. Negotiations began in 2025 with a 60-day deadline from Trump, broke down (leading to Israeli/U.S. strikes and a short war in 2025–2026), and resumed in 2026 amid ceasefires and blockades. As of mid-April 2026, talks (including a recent round in Islamabad on April 11–12) have stalled over core nuclear issues, with no new date set and the U.S. imposing a naval blockade on Iranian ports and the Strait of Hormuz. Trump has claimed progress (e.g., Iran agreeing to hand over enriched uranium stockpiles, sometimes called “nuclear dust”), but Iranian officials dispute some claims and say gaps remain.


Key Elements of the U.S.-Proposed 15-Point Framework


The full text has not been officially published, but consistent details reported by U.S., Israeli, and other media (drawing from officials briefed on the plan) include these core demands and offers. The plan envisions an initial one-month (or 30-day) ceasefire to enable further negotiations on a permanent agreement.


U.S. demands on Iran (main “red lines,” especially on nuclear issues):


• Nuclear program: Complete dismantling or permanent decommissioning of key enrichment facilities (Natanz, Isfahan/Fordow). Permanent halt to all uranium enrichment on Iranian soil (zero enrichment domestically; no “limited” or peaceful enrichment allowed under the proposal). Handover/transfer of all existing enriched uranium stockpiles (including highly enriched material) to the IAEA, a third country, or the U.S. Permanent, verifiable commitment never to develop or pursue nuclear weapons.


• Verification: Full IAEA access and monitoring of all nuclear sites/infrastructure (including the Additional Protocol for intrusive inspections; no undeclared sites).


• Ballistic missiles: Limits on the range, number, and development of Iran’s missile program.


• Regional activities: End support for (and arming/financing of) proxy groups in the “Axis of Resistance” (e.g., Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, Iraqi militias). Cease strikes on regional energy facilities or shipping.


• Maritime/security: Fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz to international shipping (no Iranian “tolls,” extortion, or interference; end any mining/blockades).


What the U.S. has offered in return:


• Lifting of nuclear-related sanctions (primary and secondary), with possible broader sanctions relief and removal of the UN “snapback” mechanism that automatically reimposes sanctions.


• U.S. support/assistance for Iran’s civilian nuclear program (e.g., electricity generation at the Bushehr plant), potentially with investment or joint projects under strict safeguards.


• Broader de-escalation, including a temporary ceasefire period to negotiate and potentially security/economic incentives (details on non-nuclear sanctions or reparations remain vague or conditional on compliance).


Iranian Positions and Sticking Points


Iran has countered with its own proposals (including a reported 5- or 10-point plan), insisting on its right to peaceful nuclear energy under international law. It has offered shorter-term pauses on high-level enrichment (e.g., 5 years vs. the U.S. push for 20+ years or permanent), dilution/transfer of some stockpiles under conditions, full sanctions relief upfront, security guarantees against future U.S./Israeli attacks, war reparations, and no limits on missiles or proxies. Iran has rejected “dismantlement” or zero enrichment as unrealistic and has described some U.S. demands as “maximalist” or a “fantasy.”


Current Status (as of April 2026)


No agreement has been reached. Recent talks collapsed over the nuclear file (Trump called it the only point that “really mattered”). A fragile two-week ceasefire is in place (with extensions uncertain), but the U.S. has escalated with a Hormuz blockade. Trump has signaled he may travel to Pakistan to close a deal and claims Iran is open to one, while Iranian officials say no further talks until a shared framework is agreed. The situation remains fluid, with military pressure (blockade, prior strikes on Iranian nuclear sites) as leverage alongside diplomacy.


In short, the deal the Trump administration is pushing for is significantly tougher and broader than the 2015 JCPOA, prioritizing permanent elimination of Iran’s enrichment path to a bomb, verifiable dismantlement, and regional de-escalation in exchange for sanctions relief and limited civilian nuclear cooperation. Details continue to evolve through indirect or mediated talks, and outcomes depend on ongoing negotiations amid high tensions. For the absolute latest official statements, check White House or State Department releases, as media reports rely on anonymous briefings.

 

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[777 fixer]

The Trump administration (in its second term) has not finalized or publicly released a complete, signed deal with Iran. Instead, it has proposed a comprehensive framework—centered on a reported 15-point ceasefire and peace plan delivered to Iran via Pakistani intermediaries in March 2026—to limit Iran’s nuclear program, curb its regional military activities, and prevent it from acquiring nuclear weapons.


This proposal builds on Trump’s long-standing view that the 2015 JCPOA (Obama-era nuclear deal, which he withdrew from in 2018) was insufficient. The goal is a “better” and more permanent agreement with stricter, longer-term (or indefinite) restrictions, robust verification, and broader scope covering missiles and proxies. Negotiations began in 2025 with a 60-day deadline from Trump, broke down (leading to Israeli/U.S. strikes and a short war in 2025–2026), and resumed in 2026 amid ceasefires and blockades. As of mid-April 2026, talks (including a recent round in Islamabad on April 11–12) have stalled over core nuclear issues, with no new date set and the U.S. imposing a naval blockade on Iranian ports and the Strait of Hormuz. Trump has claimed progress (e.g., Iran agreeing to hand over enriched uranium stockpiles, sometimes called “nuclear dust”), but Iranian officials dispute some claims and say gaps remain.


Key Elements of the U.S.-Proposed 15-Point Framework


The full text has not been officially published, but consistent details reported by U.S., Israeli, and other media (drawing from officials briefed on the plan) include these core demands and offers. The plan envisions an initial one-month (or 30-day) ceasefire to enable further negotiations on a permanent agreement.


U.S. demands on Iran (main “red lines,” especially on nuclear issues):


• Nuclear program: Complete dismantling or permanent decommissioning of key enrichment facilities (Natanz, Isfahan/Fordow). Permanent halt to all uranium enrichment on Iranian soil (zero enrichment domestically; no “limited” or peaceful enrichment allowed under the proposal). Handover/transfer of all existing enriched uranium stockpiles (including highly enriched material) to the IAEA, a third country, or the U.S. Permanent, verifiable commitment never to develop or pursue nuclear weapons.


• Verification: Full IAEA access and monitoring of all nuclear sites/infrastructure (including the Additional Protocol for intrusive inspections; no undeclared sites).


• Ballistic missiles: Limits on the range, number, and development of Iran’s missile program.


• Regional activities: End support for (and arming/financing of) proxy groups in the “Axis of Resistance” (e.g., Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, Iraqi militias). Cease strikes on regional energy facilities or shipping.


• Maritime/security: Fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz to international shipping (no Iranian “tolls,” extortion, or interference; end any mining/blockades).


What the U.S. has offered in return:


• Lifting of nuclear-related sanctions (primary and secondary), with possible broader sanctions relief and removal of the UN “snapback” mechanism that automatically reimposes sanctions.


• U.S. support/assistance for Iran’s civilian nuclear program (e.g., electricity generation at the Bushehr plant), potentially with investment or joint projects under strict safeguards.


• Broader de-escalation, including a temporary ceasefire period to negotiate and potentially security/economic incentives (details on non-nuclear sanctions or reparations remain vague or conditional on compliance).


Iranian Positions and Sticking Points


Iran has countered with its own proposals (including a reported 5- or 10-point plan), insisting on its right to peaceful nuclear energy under international law. It has offered shorter-term pauses on high-level enrichment (e.g., 5 years vs. the U.S. push for 20+ years or permanent), dilution/transfer of some stockpiles under conditions, full sanctions relief upfront, security guarantees against future U.S./Israeli attacks, war reparations, and no limits on missiles or proxies. Iran has rejected “dismantlement” or zero enrichment as unrealistic and has described some U.S. demands as “maximalist” or a “fantasy.”


Current Status (as of April 2026)


No agreement has been reached. Recent talks collapsed over the nuclear file (Trump called it the only point that “really mattered”). A fragile two-week ceasefire is in place (with extensions uncertain), but the U.S. has escalated with a Hormuz blockade. Trump has signaled he may travel to Pakistan to close a deal and claims Iran is open to one, while Iranian officials say no further talks until a shared framework is agreed. The situation remains fluid, with military pressure (blockade, prior strikes on Iranian nuclear sites) as leverage alongside diplomacy.


In short, the deal the Trump administration is pushing for is significantly tougher and broader than the 2015 JCPOA, prioritizing permanent elimination of Iran’s enrichment path to a bomb, verifiable dismantlement, and regional de-escalation in exchange for sanctions relief and limited civilian nuclear cooperation. Details continue to evolve through indirect or mediated talks, and outcomes depend on ongoing negotiations amid high tensions. For the absolute latest official statements, check White House or State Department releases, as media reports rely on anonymous briefings.

Congrats, you know how to cut and paste. Now why are you wasting your time here and not beating feet to the local recuiters?

 

[WeAAsles]

Congrats, you know how to cut and paste. Now why are you wasting your time here and not beating feet to the local recuiters?

Why shouldn’t information be cut and pasted from the best most reliable and trustworthy sources. Very silly to try to write out all that information myself wouldn’t you agree?

Why would I go into a recruitment center? I already served in the USAF years ago and have spent 31 years working for my Airline and am close to retirement.

That’s a pretty senseless comment you made? Purposeless also.