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Iraq Collapsing

PHXConx said:
 
 
 
 
 
well we probably havent counted the pressure cookers in Iraq yet... since this administration has declared them WMD...  so call hans brix and lets get this recount underway....
Or maybe "Shock and Awe Redux".   The original Iraq war was a prime example that North Korea or the Soviet Union are not the only ones who know how to produce propaganda.   The USA is pretty darn good at it themselves.  I have a hankering for some freedom fries right about now.
 
You just don't get it. Every knuckledragging sixth grade graduate is smarter than Obama.
 
PHXConx said:
 
 
 
 
 
well we probably havent counted the pressure cookers in Iraq yet... since this administration has declared them WMD...  so call hans brix and lets get this recount underway....
Sovereign nation. No declaration of war so I don't care. Kill'em all let Allah sort it out.
 
KCFlyer said:
Or maybe "Shock and Awe Redux".   The original Iraq war was a prime example that North Korea or the Soviet Union are not the only ones who know how to produce propaganda.   The USA is pretty darn good at it themselves.  I have a hankering for some freedom fries right about now.
the USA has never been shy about propaganda..(soviet union doesnt exist anymore just fyi)
 
with the 2013 ndaa authorizing the state department to put out propaganda for american consumption for the first time since 1948...
 
The amendment — proposed by Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) and Adam Smith (D-Wash.) and passed in the House last Friday afternoon — would effectively nullify the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which explicitly forbids information and psychological operations aimed at influencing U.S. public opinion.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5#ixzz35Ev9OmJC
.  goes to show you that progressives in both parties are our biggest threat...  anytime there is a bipartisan effort to do something its time for the american people to protest...  
 
PHXConx said:
the USA has never been shy about propaganda..(soviet union doesnt exist anymore just fyi)
 
 
Well aware of that....it's just that all thru my growing up years, one big black mark against the "bad guys" in the soviet union were that they used propaganda.  So I had it drilled into my head from the 50's thru the 80's that propaganda was a very bad thing.  Then came Iraq and Americans were spoon fed propaganda on a daily basis.  
 
Hate to break this to ya, KC, what was drilled in your head and mine, was nothing more than American propaganda. We were brainwashed although I think today it's known as our truth is the only truth. ALL politicians lie, distort or withhold the truth. Regardless of party affiliate.
 
Dog Wonder said:
You just don't get it. Every knuckledragging sixth grade graduate is smarter than Obama.
Who Knew?
 
I don't think Obama is a moron in the least. He's fare worse. His actions are as bold and calculating as Hitler and Stalin in that he will stop at nothing to further his agenda. Even when he "Loses" he wins as he castrates every other branch of government with his actions.
 
His actions are as bold and calculating as Hitler and Stalin in that he will stop at nothing to further his agenda.
The First Machiavellian American President
 
Remember this as a school kid?
 
We did this in elementary school.
 
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SparrowHawk said:
Who Knew?
 
I don't think Obama is a moron in the least. He's fare worse. His actions are as bold and calculating as Hitler and Stalin in that he will stop at nothing to further his agenda. Even when he "Loses" he wins as he castrates every other branch of government with his actions.
 
Could be? He's an amoral thug IMO
 
KCFlyer said:
 Now for the S64,000 question....were any of those 500 munitions posing a threat to the USA and were they worth 5,000 lives to find?  Could any of them have resulted in "The smoking gun coming in the form of a mushroom cloud"? 
 
The old boy never got close to making a nuke......however.....The Iraq Survey Group found a couple things that were in work up to Bush invading Iraq. So yes there was a threat to the US. Rep Frank Gaffney outlined the details in a speech to the Armed Services Committee on 6-29-06 of what was found.
 
In a relatively little-noted finding, the Iraq Survey Group established that the Iraqi dictator was actually engaged in continuing, low-level research and development on and even production of chemical and biological agents such as sulfur mustard, nitrogen mustard, ricin and aflatoxin. He thus maintained not only the potential to generate small quantities of such toxic materials – say, the quantities suitable for terrorist or “intelligence” purposes. He actually was still in that business at or about the time of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
 
The Iraq Survey Group also found that Saddam Hussein’s henchmen had plans to emplace sarin nerve gas and sulfur mustard in “perfume sprayers and medicine bottles which they would ship to the United States and Europe.” This, Mr. Chairman, is for me the sort of “smoking gun” we should have been looking for: Hard evidence that the so-called “Butcher of Baghdad” was, in fact, bent on unleashing terror attacks against this country and its allies as part of his pursuit of revenge against those who humiliated him in the first Gulf War.
 
The Iraq Survey Group learned that “ricin [a deadly toxin] was being developed into stable liquid to deliver as an aerosol.” As one of the ISG’s inspectors, Richard Spertzel, observed in the Wall Street Journal last October: “Such development was not just for assassination. If Iraq was successful in developing an aerosolizable ricin, it made a significant step forward. The development had to be for terrorist delivery. Even on a small scale, this must be considered as a WMD.”
 
 
But they were only small quantities...you know, the kind you let go in a shopping mall, airport or other terrorist target of opportunity.....nothing major.
 
 
KCFlyer said:
Well aware of that....it's just that all thru my growing up years, one big black mark against the "bad guys" in the soviet union were that they used propaganda.  So I had it drilled into my head from the 50's thru the 80's that propaganda was a very bad thing.  Then came Iraq and Americans were spoon fed propaganda on a daily basis.  
 
And now we have Obama and propaganda on a daily basis from his MSM counterparts.
 
Dog Wonder said:
You don't see that heathen teacher praying. Probably a global warming fan.
 
She's there to report those who didn't pray, to the Mullah for more 'indoctrination' in the name of Allah.
 

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