Is tea party’s worst nightmare becoming reality?

[SparrowHawk]

By Chad Selweski
Macomb Daily Staff Writer

Those who fail to understand the tea party movement – or simply choose to stereotype the entire group – may want to take a close look at a report that came out this week about government payouts.

CNBC reported that government payments – such as Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance -- now account for 35 percent of all U.S. wages and salaries. That is precisely the trend that drives the tea partiers.

They see a nation heading toward an untenable situation in which half of the people work and pay taxes in order to provide government checks for the other half. The first time I heard that idea voiced by tea party members nearly two years ago, I thought it was wildly off the mark.

Balance of story here

Macomb county is just outside of Dtroit, MI which isn't exactly a NeoCon stronghold. Keep that tidbit in the back of your head as you ponder the story. Sadly for our more Liberal colleague here the article paints a pretty grim future if you're in the government handout business

 

[dapoes]

And further in that article:

And it’s also worth pointing out that the research did not include food stamps, which are now provided to 40 million Americans, or programs like Medicaid and S-CHIP, which don’t provide checks but they do provide expensive medical care.

It is truly disturbing.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Payments for Social Security and unemployment insurance come in large part from money collected for that purpose.

 

[tech2101]

By Chad Selweski
Macomb Daily Staff Writer

Those who fail to understand the tea party movement – or simply choose to stereotype the entire group – may want to take a close look at a report that came out this week about government payouts.

CNBC reported that government payments – such as Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance -- now account for 35 percent of all U.S. wages and salaries. That is precisely the trend that drives the tea partiers.

They see a nation heading toward an untenable situation in which half of the people work and pay taxes in order to provide government checks for the other half. The first time I heard that idea voiced by tea party members nearly two years ago, I thought it was wildly off the mark.

Balance of story here

Macomb county is just outside of Dtroit, MI which isn't exactly a NeoCon stronghold. Keep that tidbit in the back of your head as you ponder the story. Sadly for our more Liberal colleague here the article paints a pretty grim future if you're in the government handout business

What percentage of the tea party collects from those programs they so despise?

 

[southwind]

What percentage of the tea party collects from those programs they so despise?

I'll bet my next paycheck it's a helluva lot lower percentage than the Libs who leech off the system !

 

[dapoes]

What percentage of the tea party collects from those programs they so despise?

So what you are trying to say is that the American citizen should have no expectation of money returned to them that is forcefully taken by the government? And if so then to denounce said practice would be considered hypocritical?

How about a law that that forces money out of your pocket to mine and I might pay you back if your still alive to receive it. And if you criticize it you are a hypocrite. Hows that?

 

[SparrowHawk]

What percentage of the tea party collects from those programs they so despise?

I don't think your point is relevant to the issue as nearly everyone collects or will collect some type of taxpayer funded benefit.

Frankly it's not an issue of despising or not despising a program. It's far more fundamental. We simply can't go forward as a nation with this staggering pile of debt. The demographics don't and won't support it which was really a key point in the article.

If the demographics continue as they are, there may come a time when we can't even field a viable armed forces due to a lack of younger people willing to commit to military service.

We have a dilemma fueled by debt and demographics for which no easy answers are to be found. We are as a nation on the verge of circling the drain and all everyone does is blame liberals and Fox News.

 

[delldude]

Payments for Social Security and unemployment insurance come in large part from money collected for that purpose.

The money you mention was collected in China.

 

[tech2101]

I don't think your point is relevant to the issue as nearly everyone collects or will collect some type of taxpayer funded benefit.

Frankly it's not an issue of despising or not despising a program. It's far more fundamental. We simply can't go forward as a nation with this staggering pile of debt. The demographics don't and won't support it which was really a key point in the article.

If the demographics continue as they are, there may come a time when we can't even field a viable armed forces due to a lack of younger people willing to commit to military service.

We have a dilemma fueled by debt and demographics for which no easy answers are to be found. We are as a nation on the verge of circling the drain and all everyone does is blame liberals and Fox News.

You are correct.

Where I have a problem, is when someone says:

"Keep your government hands off my Medicare." It was funny the first two or three times this angry citizen's cry against health reform got repeated—Medicare, you may have heard, is a government program, and the only way to take the government's hands off it would be to abolish it—but the joke is starting to wear thin.

Sources

 

[delldude]

You are correct.

Where I have a problem, is when someone says:



Sources

Art Laffer isn't right comparing those services mentioned to performance from the government regarding medicare?
One of the biggest HC problems is government dictating fees/services charged to doctors and what spirals these low mandated payments for services results in passed on costs to you and me.
So where do you have the problem?

 

[tech2101]

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[Dog Wonder]

The money you mention was collected in China.

It came out of my paycheck, matched by my employer.

Which are not in China.

 

[delldude]

It came out of my paycheck, matched by my employer.

Which are not in China.

That's great and good, but with the deficit spending from this and other admin's, you expect it to balance out from your paycheck?

Already spending more than YOU put in.

But, I should realize that as your posts reflect the I put in , I get out mentality.

You going to get screwed, Pal.......and it ain't with a woman.

 

[Dog Wonder]

I always wanted to pay for welfare for the rich.

But Social Security isn't an 'entitlement' program.

 

[dapoes]

I always wanted to pay for welfare for the rich.

But Social Security isn't an 'entitlement' program.

Oh yeah thats right, delusional liberals like to say its an 'insurance policy" and that it is insurance policy and is being collect lawfully. Except its not fully funded and used as a slush fund with proceeds being raided for decades for anything the politicians desire without any repercussions. They collect current tax revenue to fund current liabilities.

Didn't Madoff go to jail over a scheme like this?