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Libya is a sovereign nation also, you cant have it both ways.

And glad you think its funny that people wanting freedom are getting killed and we pick and choose who we help.

Hypocrisy.


Here's some hypocrisy for you:

Guess Which Company Paid $0 in Taxes (on $14.2 Billion in Profits)? Hint: Its CEO Works for Obama


Half of all Americans don’t pay federal taxes on their income. And neither, apparently, does General Electric, the multi-national company that reaped $14.2 billion in profits last year. Though G.E. is the largest corporation in the U.S., it did not have to pay a dime in U.S. taxes, according to the New York Times. In fact, the company claimed $3.2 billion in tax benefits.

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"Responsibility to Protect" - The End of National Sovereignty As We Know It?

Why Did U.S. President Barack Obama order a military attack on Libya? Why did he seek the permission of the United Nations Security Council, but not that of the U.S. Congress - as he is constitutionally obliged to do?


Glenn Beck has explained President Obama's decision to attack Libya in terms of the United Nations' "Responsibility to Protect Doctrine"

Mr Beck is right.

The Obama administration is supporting moves to implement an U.N. doctrine calling for collective military action to halt genocide. In a week-long debate on implementing the Responsibility to Protect Doctrine, the U.S. joined a majority of U.N. countries, including Russia and China, in supporting implementation of the policy. The doctrine itself was approved in 2005 by more than 150 states including the U.S.
The doctrine specifies that diplomatic options such as internal conflict resolution, sanctions, and prosecution by the International Criminal Court, should be used first. If they don't work, then a multi-national force approved by the Security Council would be deployed.

In other words, if the United Nations does not approve of a certain government's behavior, and that government's leaders will not respond to sanctions and the threat of prosecution, they will be attackeded militarily.

Yet as I write, a quiet revolution is under way. In September 2005, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a declaration - the World Summit Outcome - whereby each and every State in the world accepted its responsibility to protect populations from genocide, crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing and war crimes. The declaration also emphasizes that if a State relinquishes its responsibility to protect – whether by will or lack of capacity - this responsibility must be borne by the international community that can decide to intervene as a last resort. In the face of mass atrocities, every nation and thus every people on earth have pledged to be our brothers’ keepers. Without fanfare and with little notice, the obsolete principles underlying the Westphalian ordering of world affairs have been dramatically rewritten. We can no longer hide behind State sovereignty, a 400-years old shield, to excuse the shameful reflex and ongoing practice of remaining passive in the face of the most outrageous behaviors...

"We can no longer hide behind state sovereignty."

"Responsibility to Protect" means the end of national sovereignty. It mandates the surrender of any nation state's legal authority over their own citizenry and armed forces to a supra-national body, with the power to sanction or destroy any deemed "rogue" nation - does Israel spring to mind?

"Responsibility to Protect" - three little words, that should strike terror into the heart of every patriot in every free nation of the world.

More.......

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“Reorganizing the world order will need to extend beyond the financial system and involve the United Nations, especially membership of the Security Council,’ he wrote. ‘That process needs to be initiated by the US, but China and other developing countries ought to participate as equals.” Soros emphasized that point, that this needs to be a global solution, making America one among many. “The rising powers must be present at the creation of this new system in order to ensure that they will be active supporters.”
 
Funny, I thought we were wacking bad guys with Predators in the Sudan.....that comes under ' did something'.

Seals wacked some pirates off the Ivory Coast....that counts as doing something.

The Predator drone strikes you are probably thinking of happened in Yemen. The SEAL team taking out pirates happened off Somolia. Both cases had little to do with making anyone free other than the Captain of that ship.
 
Here's some hypocrisy for you:

There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around. Whether it's the president who at one time said the president needs congressional approval before undertaking military action. Or the GOP congressman who all of a sudden have this new found concern about the comitment of US forces, the nature of the mission, the duration of it and the cost. Things they were not so concerend about when it came to Iraq. Which cost a WHOLE lot more than Libya has so far in terms of money and lives.
 
"Responsibility to Protect" - The End of National Sovereignty As We Know It?

Why Did U.S. President Barack Obama order a military attack on Libya? Why did he seek the permission of the United Nations Security Council, but not that of the U.S. Congress - as he is constitutionally obliged to do?


Glenn Beck has explained President Obama's decision to attack Libya in terms of the United Nations' "Responsibility to Protect Doctrine"

Mr Beck is right.

Gleen Beck? Could'nt you have found someone, to put it mildly, not so ignorant?
 
The Predator drone strikes you are probably thinking of happened in Yemen. The SEAL team taking out pirates happened off Somolia. Both cases had little to do with making anyone free other than the Captain of that ship.

Maybe got my hits wrong.....LOL

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Interesting article, not much was heard about it when it happened two years ago. You have to wonder how Israel found out, maybe they have themselves a mole within Hamas or in Iran.
 
Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya".

Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".


Lovely, just lovely....
 
"Responsibility to Protect" - The End of National Sovereignty As We Know It?

Why Did U.S. President Barack Obama order a military attack on Libya? Why did he seek the permission of the United Nations Security Council, but not that of the U.S. Congress - as he is constitutionally obliged to do?


Glenn Beck has explained President Obama's decision to attack Libya in terms of the United Nations' "Responsibility to Protect Doctrine"

Mr Beck is right.



In other words, if the United Nations does not approve of a certain government's behavior, and that government's leaders will not respond to sanctions and the threat of prosecution, they will be attackeded militarily.



"Responsibility to Protect" means the end of national sovereignty. It mandates the surrender of any nation state's legal authority over their own citizenry and armed forces to a supra-national body, with the power to sanction or destroy any deemed "rogue" nation - does Israel spring to mind?

"Responsibility to Protect" - three little words, that should strike terror into the heart of every patriot in every free nation of the world.

More.......

George-Soros.gif


“Reorganizing the world order will need to extend beyond the financial system and involve the United Nations, especially membership of the Security Council,’ he wrote. ‘That process needs to be initiated by the US, but China and other developing countries ought to participate as equals.” Soros emphasized that point, that this needs to be a global solution, making America one among many. “The rising powers must be present at the creation of this new system in order to ensure that they will be active supporters.”

So then its ok for the UN to crap all over nations in the interest of 'responsibility to protect?

Never happen here...... :blink:
 
A navy P-3C Orion took out a Libyan Coast Gaurd vessel and an A-10 ruined someones harbor excursion.



http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=59406
 
If this is true it looks like Sweden in joining in on the fun.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20110330_Swedish_government_to_send_8_Gripen_fighter_planes_to_Libya.html
 
I bet you they are picking this guys brain.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/africa/articles/2011/04/01/west_hails_defections_of_top_khadafy_aides/
 
Hey Obama, look how thankful the Libyan people are for all your help!

 
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