Mechanics and Pilots faulted in MD80 incident

[Hopeful]

But hey, AA only cares about paying the executives so they can ensure the "KEY" talent doesn't jump the AA ship.
I winder if the MBAs and suits at the top can lose their degree when things go bad.....



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mechanics-cr...f-14871772.html

 

[chris perry]

But hey, AA only cares about paying the executives so they can ensure the "KEY" talent doesn't jump the AA ship.
I winder if the MBAs and suits at the top can lose their degree when things go bad.....



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mechanics-cr...f-14871772.html

This filter was not requied to be changed per the mel.This was a faa approved document.It is now required in hind sight.So whos really to blame?

 

[DalMD88]

This filter was not requied to be changed per the mel.This was a faa approved document.It is now required in hind sight.So whos really to blame?

Well, there are systems in place so that a repeat write up doesn't get cleared 6 times in 13 days by changing the same part over and over again.

It is the fault of the mechanics for not doing a better job of troubleshooting the problem. Part of the troubleshooting process is looking back through the log history for what has been done recently on a system. It is the management teams fault that they allowed this to happen. CASS monitoring should have redflagged this days before the incident. It could also be blamed on management for not providing the mechanics invloved with the proper support and tooling to do the job.

 

[Hopeful]

Well, there are systems in place so that a repeat write up doesn't get cleared 6 times in 13 days by changing the same part over and over again.

It is the fault of the mechanics for not doing a better job of troubleshooting the problem. Part of the troubleshooting process is looking back through the log history for what has been done recently on a system. It is the management teams fault that they allowed this to happen. CASS monitoring should have redflagged this days before the incident. It could also be blamed on management for not providing the mechanics invloved with the proper support and tooling to do the job.

Wherever the blame lies, it's the mechanic who has to be concerned with getting his/her license suspended or even revoked. Concern with fines is real..

Tell me FWAAA and EOLESEN, what executive to you know has to worry about losing a license??????

But hey, we make to much money already...

 

[MCI transplant]

Wherever the blame lies, it's the mechanic who has to be concerned with getting his/her license suspended or even revoked. Concern with fines is real..

Tell me FWAAA and EOLESEN, what executive to you know has to worry about losing a license??????

But hey, we make to much money already...

<_< ------- Exactly!!!

 

[eolesen]

Tell me FWAAA and EOLESEN, what executive to you know has to worry about losing a license??????

Surely you can't be that ignorant....

Frank Lorenzo effective lost his license to own or control an airline, and the FAA has stood behind that action several times since Texas Air lost control of Continental. Perhaps rightfully so, but looking at what's happened in the past 20 years since that happened, his actions wound up being a lot less offensive than those taken by Jonathan Ornstein, Mike Conway, Bill Franke, Glenn Tilton, or Carl Icahn.

How about Sarbaines-Oxley? Prove there's a second set of books, and the CFO and CEO fare fines and up to 20 years in prison. Heck, you don't even need to be the one who did the illegal act. If your name is on the filings, you're the one held accountable.

How about shareholder lawsuits?... Naah, no point.

How about the SEC? Long before Madoff, they've regularly banned individuals who violate SEC rules from ever serving in any capacity with financial companies.

So, while I empathize with all the responsibility that being licensed carries, you're not by any means the only workgroup exposed to having your ticket pulled by the feds.

 

[Hopeful]

Spare me your nonsensical babble....DID LORENZO OR ANY OF THOSE OTHERE TOILET TISSUE REMNANTS HOLD A FEDERAL LICENSE??????????????????

It's an easy question oh great know it all eolesen...

DID THEY HOLD A FEDERAL LICENSE ISSUED BY THE DOT-FAA?


By the way, I'm at work again on company time responding to you......hehehehehehehehe


Did thever face this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7673316.stm

 

[Joe Patroni]

Well, there are systems in place so that a repeat write up doesn't get cleared 6 times in 13 days by changing the same part over and over again.

It is the fault of the mechanics for not doing a better job of troubleshooting the problem. Part of the troubleshooting process is looking back through the log history for what has been done recently on a system. It is the management teams fault that they allowed this to happen. CASS monitoring should have redflagged this days before the incident. It could also be blamed on management for not providing the mechanics invloved with the proper support and tooling to do the job.

Could not have said it better. Exactly right.