Mechanics Authorize Strike

[Hackman]

They didn't get fined for the sickout -- they got fined for contempt of court. Ignoring a judge can be quite expensive...

[post="283595"][/post]​

Its funny how penalties apply when unions violate laws or judges, but rouge companies like NWA can lie, cheat, steal, screw their employees, screw taxpayers, and its "just a new way we do business in todays world".

Its all going back to the old days of Robber Barons and corporate thugs. :down:

 

[Saturdaynite]

Its about time.

But, the big question is: Why did'nt the unions at these airlines strike or authorize some sort of job action back in 2001 when people were being laid off en mass? Why now? Its a bit late for the thousands of people who have already lost their jobs and remain on the street for no good reason. :angry:  :rant:

[post="282778"][/post]​

Because we( NWA F/As) were still MISrepresented by the Brotherhood of theives back then 🙂

SN

 

[Beer Guzzler]

It appears that NWA (AMFA) Mtc (Mechanics to return to bargaining table) has agreed to start talking again. This can only mean that AMFA is going to cave, NW Mtc w/end up with huge pay cuts & jobs lost.. I hope that I am wrong.. It is the same ole 'talk a tough game' that all unions play, that is until push comes to shove then they concede.. Only time will tell..

 

[Hackman]

It appears that NWA (AMFA) Mtc (Mechanics to return to bargaining table) has agreed to start talking again. This can only mean that AMFA is going to cave, NW Mtc w/end up with huge pay cuts & jobs lost.. I hope that I am wrong.. It is the same ole 'talk a tough game' that all unions play, that is until push comes to shove then they concede.. Only time will tell..

[post="284284"][/post]​

If they do "cave" as you state, the iam and the twu have nothing to say. They bent over first and started this sickness, and the twu has conceded for 22 years. Now NWA is demanding concessions "like everyone else has", and NWA management bastards want to trump them with the most devestating cuts yet.

The worthless twu and iam won't even "talk tough". Hard to do when the man has you in his back pocket.

AMFA has been the only union to resist, where the other company unions have made excuses why they will not fight....even in the good times. :down:

 

[acmech]

Because we( NWA F/As) were still MISrepresented by the Brotherhood of theives back then 🙂

SN

[post="284104"][/post]​

Back in 2001, everyone at TWA was not represented well during the buyout by AA. Our unions sold us down the pike telling us we had to sign away the scope and successorship clauses in order for the deal to proceed. And the unions (IAM) and the management folks at both airlines said this would save jobs.

Well we all know what happened next:layoffs.

 

[NWA/AMT]

It appears that NWA (AMFA) Mtc (Mechanics to return to bargaining table) has agreed to start talking again. This can only mean that AMFA is going to cave, NW Mtc w/end up with huge pay cuts & jobs lost.. I hope that I am wrong.. It is the same ole 'talk a tough game' that all unions play, that is until push comes to shove then they concede.. Only time will tell..

[post="284284"][/post]​

Since this meeting was scheduled by the NMB, not AMFA or NWA, you may be reading too much into it. It certainly does not fit your description of "This can only mean that AMFA is going to cave...". From the very beginning AMFA has sought an agreement, one that would undoubtedly mean a reduction in wages, but has refused to allow NWA to gut it's contract. Agreeing to the NMB's request to attend, despite NWA's statements that they will not change the bargaining position they have maintained for eight months, is not expected to result in an agreement.

However, the fact that the NMB is calling these sessions a "public interest conference" is seen by many as evidence that the NMB is preparing for a Presidential Emergency Board, despite the administration's claims to the contrary.

AMFA Negotiation Update

 

[Kev3188]

The worthless twu and iam won't even "talk tough". Hard to do when the man has you in his back pocket.

AMFA has been the only union to resist, where the other company unions have made excuses why they will not fight....even in the good times. :down:

[post="284366"][/post]​

If the IAM @ NW is as quick to prostrate itself as you'd like to think, then why didn't they accept the company's opening offer(s)?

 

[Hackman]

If the IAM @ NW is as quick to prostrate itself as you'd like to think, then why didn't they accept the company's opening offer(s)?

[post="284493"][/post]​

What "offers" are you speaking of? Past or present? I'm talking about mechanics, not the rampers.

 

[eolesen]

However, the fact that the NMB is calling these sessions a "public interest conference" is seen by many as evidence that the NMB is preparing for a Presidential Emergency Board, despite the administration's claims to the contrary.

AMFA Negotiation Update

[post="284459"][/post]​

It could also just be a technicality -- NMB has to make a recommendation on whether or not to ask for a PEB. There are no favors left to call in with the White House for any airline at this point, and if NWA is able to run even at 70% of their schedule, I wouldn't expect one to be requested.

 

[NWA/AMT]

There are no favors left to call in with the White House for any airline at this point...

[post="284562"][/post]​

Unless, of course, the Secretary of Labor is a former member of your Board of Directors.

 

[AMFAMAN]

It could also just be a technicality -- NMB has to make a recommendation on whether or not to ask for a PEB.  There are no favors left to call in with the White House for any airline at this point, and if NWA is able to run even at 70% of their schedule, I wouldn't expect one to be requested.

[post="284562"][/post]​

No PEB this time, unless they've had a change of heart.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050721/northwest_mechanics.html?.v=2

BTW...If the Mechanic and Related walk alone, NWA would get 50% on day one and that will drop by 10%+ per a day as the planes start breaking down till a steady 20% leave each day. If they think for a second that a bunch of guys with almost no line experience are going to maintain one of the oldest fleets out there fly, their fooling themselves. There is only so much that management can pencil whip before the planes fall out of the sky or don't fly at all. They think that putting these guys through some accelerated classroom training will bring them up to speed on these birds, guess what, they don't. Classroom training does not apply in the line world, neither does Maintenance Manuals. Experience and more experience is what makes planes fly and leave close to on-time. If they are depending upon classroom training and M.M. to operate a hub like MSP or DTW, you might get 20% of the schedule airborne.

 

[Red Tail Bear]

No PEB this time, unless they've had a change of heart.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050721/northwest_mechanics.html?.v=2

BTW...If the Mechanic and Related walk alone, NWA would get 50% on day one and that will drop by 10%+ per a day as the planes start breaking down till a steady 20% leave each day. If they think for a second that a bunch of guys with almost no line experience are making to make one of the oldest fleets out there fly, their fooling themselves. There is only so much that management can pencil whip before the planes fall out of the sky or don't fly at all. They think that putting these guys through some accelerated classroom training will bring them up to speed on these birds, guess what, they don't. Classroom training does not apply in the line world, neither does Maintenance Manuals. Experience and more experience is what makes planes fly and leave close to on-time. If they are depending upon classroom training and M.M. to operate a hub like MSP or DTW, you might get 20% of the schedule airborne.

[post="284607"][/post]​

I definitely agree with your post AMFAMAN. If/when AMFA walks and the company brings in the replacements, I'll take great joy in seeing them fall flat on their faces. Good Luck to the AMT's

 

[Kev3188]

What "offers" are you speaking of? Past or present?  I'm talking about mechanics, not the rampers.

[post="284500"][/post]​

Since we're on the Northwest board, I assumed you meant the ESSC/COPFS agreements @NWA when you mentioned the IAM.