Northwest Says It Will Fly With Scabs

[scot]

If we cant stop the name calling and act like adults, we'll be more than happy to start giving time outs to ALL involved.

 

[emily]

Magsau,Jun 28 2005, 08:35 PM]
YOU WROTE :
. The pilots did take concessions. Yet 2 months later obtained a RAISE.

I don't know where you got this information but it is wrong. The pilots took a 15% salary cut plus increased health care costs. They have gotten no raises since.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Magsau,Jun 28 2005, 08:35 PM]
YOU WROTE :
. The pilots did take concessions. Yet 2 months later obtained a RAISE.

I don't know where you got this information but it is wrong. The pilots took a 15% salary cut plus increased health care costs. They have gotten no raises since.

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magsau,

" AND, your reply to EMILY is..............................????? "

NH/BB's

 

[magsau]

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magsau,

" AND, your reply to EMILY is..............................????? "

NH/BB's

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You might want to reread who wrote what. I only posted that the pilots took cuts. Someone else wrote that they had gotten raises.

AND, your reply to me would be............???????

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

You might want to reread who wrote what. I only posted that the pilots took cuts. Someone else wrote that they had gotten raises.

AND, your reply to me would be............???????

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magsau,

My reply to you, on this particuliar subject is that I was misinformed about the raises part, and I STAND CORRECTED !!!!!!!!!!

NH/BB's

 

[North by Northwest]

The truth IS ...not even scabs will help United if there is a strike...

Sadly, that is not even an option. If there is a strike at United it is move over Pan Am. The truth certainly is painful at times. Deal with it.

 

[luv2fly]

The truth IS ...not even scabs will help United if there is a strike...

If there is a strike at United it is move over Pan Am. The truth certainly is painful at times. Deal with it.

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If the NMB releases both sides from the table, it appears the truth will in fact be painful for NW.

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[Fly]

The truth IS ...not even scabs will help United if there is a strike...

Sadly, that is not even an option. If there is a strike at United it is move over Pan Am. The truth certainly is painful at times. Deal with it.

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But United ISN'T striking. Is NW?

United's employees realized the truth and live to fight another day. Will NW?

 

[Saturdaynite]

The truth hurts don't it!!! NORTHWORST deal with it! It's just as bad as UNTIED <_<

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Fly,

You are obviously a gelded fool.Deal with that !!!

🙂 WT

 

[Fly]

Sure would have been a real "WIN" for us, huh?

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

FLY,
It's only fitting that you'd change your avatar(AGAIN) to "Dumbya" !!

He's(semi-indirectly) the ONLY reason that they hav'nt PADLOCKED the doors in Elk Grove Village yet. (I'm NOT saying that I want the people at UA to "croak")

I guess it does'nt hurt to have(From Illinois) Denny Hastert as the Speaker of the house of representatives, does it ????????????????????????????????????????????


(And THAT is what(indirectly) NxNW has been trying to say to you and magsau, albeit in a "hyperventilitive state")


NH/BB's

 

[aafsc]

Sure would have been a real "WIN" for us, huh?

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Fly, as a former EAL employee, I can tell you that there are NO regrets about shutting EAL down. Lorenzo came to EAL with the sole intention of destroying labor. This was evidenced by the unwarranted harassment of unionized employees and being written up for no good reason. If he had succeeded by being able to pay CO compensation (massive paycuts, no pensions, etc.) at EAL (by the EAL people cowering), the cuts you are enduring now would have happened in 1989. The EAL people bought the other airline employees about 15 years. Even though DL, AA and US and their employees benefited by EAL's demise by getting gates, slots, routes, hubs, and aircraft, I have never heard anyone express any regrets even though it cost everything.

 

[Dea Certe]

aafsc,

This is the same thing I've heard from other former EAL employees. Some people have forgotten or never really knew what went on from 1984-91. Frank Lorenzo wasn't just kicked out of the airline business because he wanted to give the traveling public low fares. His greed and ego ran apace of each other, much like what is happening with Corporate America today.

I have an incredible amount of respect for all the former EAL folks that took pride in their professions and were willing to lay it all on the line. I don't think we will see such courage from so many in my life time, and that's what the "suits" think too.

So the race to the bottom continues. How many people have to live in cardboard boxes before our country breaks into riots?

Dea

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Fly, as a former EAL employee, I can tell you that there are NO regrets about shutting EAL down. Lorenzo came to EAL with the sole intention of destroying labor. This was evidenced by the unwarranted harassment of unionized employees and being written up for no good reason. If he had succeeded by being able to pay CO compensation (massive paycuts, no pensions, etc.) at EAL (by the EAL people cowering), the cuts you are enduring now would have happened in 1989. The EAL people bought the other airline employees about 15 years. Even though DL, AA and US and their employees benefited by EAL's demise by getting gates, slots, routes, hubs, and aircraft, I have never heard anyone express any regrets even though it cost everything.

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Thank you to EVERY EAL employee that struck lorenzo and his pure greed ego.
Hopefully today's airline employees will understand the sacrifices you all made for the rest of us today.

The cartoon in your post is typical of how the uneducated look at labor. The artist who drew that cartoon doesn't have clue one about what was accomplished back then. This artist probably feels he can pay $10.00 round trip and expect first class and wine.

EAL's sacrifice will never be forgotten!

 

[TheDog2004]

pass the Kool-Aid.