Monkey business in Philly?

[EastCheats]

Reported on another forum:​

Took an airplane into PHL where it RON'd. Came out next morning for predawn departure to find same airplane at same gate. Logbook said RON check complete.

FO found a blue 10" x 6" rag laying flat in the bottom of engine 1 cowl ahead of the fan.

FO's window was not locked. Closed, but not locked.

Both glass cleaner packets had been removed.

FO's shoulder harness had a thin layer of grease on the edge closest to him....leaving a nice black line on his collar.

7 years of dealing with these children out east is robbing me of my good humor. ​

I'm sure all this was a coincidental. It's part of my preflight flow to check for grease on the shoulder harness.

 

[Monkee]

I had nothing to do with it....

 

[EastCheats]

I had nothing to do with it....

Good one.

 

[wings396]

Who knows if this is a factual claim or not. If so, it sounds like mtc would have to be involved, and I haven't known of them to be caught up in the East/ West battle.

 

[EastCheats]

Who knows if this is a factual claim or not. If so, it sounds like mtc would have to be involved, and I haven't known of them to be caught up in the East/ West battle.

That's the reason I posted it as a question mark. I've never had that kind of problem myself in East bases. Grease on the shoulder harness? Something tells me they will be checking for a pattern.

 

[blue collar]

Who knows if this is a factual claim or not. If so, it sounds like mtc would have to be involved, and I haven't known of them to be caught up in the East/ West battle.

What makes you think mx was involved? There's nothing there that would indicate mx involvement. Sounds to me like a crew thinking they were a target and it was really nothing but coincidence.

 

[Keroseneuser]

Just about every RON I do all over the system with the same plane in the morning looks like somebody has been playing "airplane pilot" in the cockpit the night before. PHX included. Even without an overnight check done.

Seats moved, windows not locked, transponders turned off, or above/below, crossfeeds open, rudder pedals readjusted etc etc.

I always figured it was the contract cleaners in there playing pilot during the night.

Just reinforced my diligence in making sure we do a good cockpit check and walk around.

Sounds like the original poster you copied is one of the "stir up the sh%t types" we are seeing too much of around here lately.

 

[autofixer]

I got in a 757 last Spring in PHX and the F/os window was unlocked. I had never thought that it was a Westie shenanigan, but now I might have to reconsider.

 

[wings396]

What makes you think mx was involved? There's nothing there that would indicate mx involvement. Sounds to me like a crew thinking they were a target and it was really nothing but coincidence.

A rag and grease would be an obvious clue to even a novice detective. I'm not trying to implicate anyone, as I doubt the story has any merit.

 

[blue collar]

A rag and grease would be an obvious clue to even a novice detective. I'm not trying to implicate anyone, as I doubt the story has any merit.

Mx doesn't use blue rags. Also, black grease could be from anyone who can touch the plane. The color of new grease is either green or red, depending on what you're doing. Maybe it was a ramper wanting to play pilot after touching a dirty belt loader...

 

[Pi brat]

Sounds like the original poster you copied is one of the "stir up the sh%t types" we are seeing too much of around here lately.

Au contraire! Just last month a west friend of mine found what appeared to be a piece of lint in his seat after the cockpit/cabin condition report had been laid on the glare shield. It could have been infected with deadly toxins. Where is Johnny Mac aka "The Reporter"? Action must be taken.

There are stir the #$% types and then there are spread the #$%# types. I think that is what we have with the starter of the the thread.

 

[EastCheats]

There are stir the #$% types and then there are spread the #$%# types. I think that is what we have with the starter of the the thread.

If you aren't taking this seriously Pi, I know others that are concerned to say the least. It is the top subject of the thread I was reading.

I'm thinking this is a lone wolf from the comments I have read thus far. I'll share a few:

1) Recommendation: submit an ASAP-they get read by the Feds-also send a copy to Robert Isom. Event reports get buried.

2) Don't let this crap slip by. Do as is recommended here and file the ASAP/Event Report. Contact our CP office. While this was probably meant to be a nuisance to our West crews, it could quickly become safety hazards or worse!​

3) Had a bad experience with mx in CLT. I called the chief pilots office and it was ran up the flag pole all the way to CLT hub manager. Sounded like maybe he was already on the radar and they would be dealing with said mechanic.

4) Refuse the aircraft on suspicion of sabatoge.
See if that gets anyone's attention. ​

5) This crap needs to stop. The only way it will stop is from the top. Write it up document it. If you suspect anything else might be wrong stop the flight. A couple cancelled or delayed flight for suspicion of tampering will get everyone's attention. A rag left on the cowl, who knows what was left inside the cowling or E and E bay.
Childish games need to be dealt with adult consequences.

Do you still think our crews are taking this lightly? This is not some fake safety campaign put on by a fake union.

 

[luvn737s]

Maybe the grease was on the belt retractor in the seat.

So far, the worst perpetrators against the west flaunt their activites in the open. As a matter of fact, they have this thing called Agency Shop to facilitate the flaunting.

I'd hate to start sounding like the LifeLock Umpaloompas

 

[Pi brat]

Do you still think our crews are taking this lightly?

I never thought you guys were taking it lightly. I see "the end of the world as we know it" in the posts.

 

[isvlives2]

Reported on another forum:​

Took an airplane into PHL where it RON'd. Came out next morning for predawn departure to find same airplane at same gate. Logbook said RON check complete.

FO found a blue 10" x 6" rag laying flat in the bottom of engine 1 cowl ahead of the fan.

FO's window was not locked. Closed, but not locked.

Both glass cleaner packets had been removed.

FO's shoulder harness had a thin layer of grease on the edge closest to him....leaving a nice black line on his collar.

7 years of dealing with these children out east is robbing me of my good humor. ​

I'm sure all this was a coincidental. It's part of my preflight flow to check for grease on the shoulder harness.

Hopefully you called a maintence supervisor and a chief pilot after finding all that and before you allowed boarding of the flight. What did they say? Did you just fly the flight and say nothing even after you landed?

We are having problems with both window locks on east airplanes to. The flight goes nowhere until the captain has had a discussion with somebody.