Harry Callahan
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Class of 10 scheduled to start today. 4 showed up.
How many of these will stay ? What a joke.
How many of these will stay ? What a joke.
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OldGuyinPA
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it's obvious.....Crellin has their ears....
Pay them less...so you can pay me more.....
It ain't working ....Al
Pay them less...so you can pay me more.....
It ain't working ....Al
jimntx
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coachrowsey said:
That's what you get at that pay rate. A friend who is a retail store manager says he has to "hire" 10 people for every 5 that actually show up on the first day. And, he pays a little over $9/hr to start for sales clerks.
He had one that showed up 2 weeks after her scheduled start date, demanding to know where her time card was so she could clock in. When told that since she didn't show up two weeks earlier on the scheduled start date, she didn't have a job, she replied, "I couldn't come then. I had things to do." :huh:
Seatacus
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$7.17 an hour???????? Is that all they get. I can't imagine that the company will pay that little and then let them do pushbacks and tows with 50 million dollar airplanes. Unless you are someone with a good work ethic where is the incentive to be careful. :blink:
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I started working here 18 years ago and started at 6.25 an hour. We did pushbacks, airstarts, lav and water service in addition to loading/unloading an airplanes. There was never a problem then, why would it be any different now?
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HEY GENUIS, what was the purchasing power 18 years ago at $6.25 an hour? is it the same today?MarkMyWords said:
i hope your statement was satire, because if not you are a real rocket scientist surely you jest!MarkMyWords
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Hey, do you think it was easy taking a job at 6.25 an hour, part-time? Do you think it was easy to make 6.25 an hour and move to get full time? No. But a lot of us did it then, and people will do it again if this is the type of job they wanted. On the payscale I was hired on, we wouldn't have topped out for 22 years. The merge with A scale wasn't until 11 years. I knew what I was getting myself into when I got here and haven't really regretted it.
My point to SeaTac was that not only did we earn less and do pushbacks and tows, but we did even more then that. We did lav/water service and airstarts. How much you are paid should have no relevance on your ability to work around a multi-million dollar airplane safely.
My point to SeaTac was that not only did we earn less and do pushbacks and tows, but we did even more then that. We did lav/water service and airstarts. How much you are paid should have no relevance on your ability to work around a multi-million dollar airplane safely.
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My point is if a new hire tows a plane into a jetway and causes 500k in damage and then loses his job he then goes to Burger King and gets hired for the same wage, and gets a free lunch. 🙁
MarkMyWords said:
Your point is specious, though, because $6.25 in late 1986 (i.e. 18 years ago, as you said) is equivalent to $10.82 in late 2004 in terms of purchasing power. $7.17 in 2004 dollars is equivalent to $4.14 in 1986 dollars. So, essentially, you took the job for what works out to about 50% more purchasing power than what the company wants to pay today. If you thought it was tough to make it on $6.25/hour part-time back then, how tough would it have been on $4.14/hour, part time? Don't believe me? Go look up the CPI numbers at BLS for urban consumers.
If you're management at UAIR and you don't comprehend why $7.17 today is worth only about two-thirds of what $6.25 was worth eighteen years ago, that certainly explains why UAIR is in its current predicament. For what the company wants to pay now, they are going to get the rejects from Mickey D's and BK.
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MarkMyWords said:
Mark,
Are you really this stupid as to draw a line between $6.25 PH 18 years ago and $7.17 PH in todays world?
Geez Man , You take the cake and will likely eat it too , of course with your equally moronic friends in CCY. :down:
Dude....back away from the keyboard and examine the difference in the costs of everything other than an plane ticket between 18 years ago and today. You will see why 50 are recruited , 4 actually show up...and maybe if the person is despirate enough or gullable enough , maybe 1 will stick around 6 months , if that long? :angry:
Hell fire Mark..if you find $7.17 PH so acceptable..and so entirely do-able....Please feel free to offer your services to Mr. Glass and Lakefield at that rate...they may even send you a form letter of thanks for your sacrifices? 😛
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Around where I live He'd make MORE than that at bk. AND get free lunch! Ding! Fries are done!Seatacus said:
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you have left me totally speechless with this logic :blink: why dont you go get your open heart surgery accomplished by a witch doctor in jamaica? i mean "HOW MUCH YOU ARE PAID SHOULD HAVE NO RELEVANCE ON YOUR ABILITY TO WORK AROUND SUCH A COMPLEX ORGAN SAFELY" you get what you pay for, and obviously cheaper is better in your view. HOPE THAT CHEAP MAINTENANCE DOES'T COME BACK TO BITE TOO HARDMarkMyWords said:
