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Sorry, but what he said was true. We old US Airways employee would had been history and the AWA employees would had been right behind us. Must you concerned "FFOCUS" people always find a complaint in something? Jobs WERE saved. That IS the jest of the article. Had he bragged about how wonderful our service was, then I could and would agree with your post.
 
Sorry, but what he said was true. We old US Airways employee would had been history and the AWA employees would had been right behind us. Must you concerned "FFOCUS" people always find a complaint in something? Jobs WERE saved. That IS the jest of the article. Had he bragged about how wonderful our service was, then I could and would agree with your post.


What I am sick about is not about the jobs. It's that US is still divided. US pilots and FA's are still flying thier own perspective aircraft and are still have seperate contracts. To me that is not a success.
 
What I am sick about is not about the jobs. It's that US is still divided. US pilots and FA's are still flying thier own perspective aircraft and are still have seperate contracts. To me that is not a success.

Well the separate ops situation certainly is not Doug's fault - although he has done little to encourage solving the west-east stand-off. I agree, this company could be so much more were the separate operations melded into one.
 
Say what you want, but the ship is still afloat. Granted it is beat up a bit, but a lot of people are still employed.
I would also like to see the Pilot and F/A issues resolved, but as posted above it's not 100% Parkers fault. The major issue with the Pilot group is a direct result of the "Nic award", and that can't be fixed by Parker alone. One group or another was going to be unhappy when it came to senoirity issues. I don't know what the remedy is for this situation, or if there even is one.
 
It's really amusing how convenient it is for people to blame management for the pilot seniority issue.

When the merger took place, ALPA clearly told management to not get involved in the seniority list as it was a pilot and union issue, so they didn't. Now that it's a mess, it's management's fault. Give me a break.

As for Delta and Northwest pilots, they too will leave the seniority issue up to arbitration so don't say that issue is resolved because it isn't.

As for frequent flyers, if business travel is such a huge inconvenience in your life then find another job. Afterall, isn't that what you say about disgruntled airline employees.

And if you think that you are owed a free first-class seat or a free ticket for the sacrafice of being away from your family, then get your boss to buy you one. Or how about this, take a pay cut to increase your travel budget and buy your own upgrades.

As employees, we should be grateful for your business but if I had to choose between my job or giving away seats, I choose my job. I'm sure you would feel the same in your own business.

We are in the business of selling seats on an airplane. As a customer, you are owed a safe, clean environment while getting from point A to point B; as close to on-time as possible and with your bags. And through it all, hopefully you are treated in a courteous and respectful way. In other words -- good, realiable service. That is what Doug Parker believes in and we as a company have been trying to improve and be the best at.

Yes, if we were gushing in money, I'm sure our mangement would love to give our best customers whatever they want, but we are not. Southwest has the most money of all airlines and still does not offer first-class seats, assigned seats, lounges, service to smaller markets, meals or international destinations.

I know what you are going to say: but at least they offer good reliable service. Thank you, read above.
 
Let me be clear about one thing in case you might have the wrong idea bout my post. I am all for you front line employees on having a job and never want/wanted US to go under.

It's your management team who I have a problem with. I don't believe anything that comes out of their mouths.
 
One big advantage DAL & NW will have is virtualy no fleet overlap (only the 757s) so they can agree to seniority by fleet types and it won't change anyones expectations, except for the fleets that may go away i.e. DCs?
 
As far as both airlines being toast, Doug Parker is dead bang correct. On that there can be no debate.

What rankles many of us is he trots this old warhorse out as the fundamentals of his airline crumble under the weight of bad management.

Furthermore Doug makes no mention of his open contempt for Frequent Flyers. He's been quoted on this many times.

The reason he is out in front of the media is to spin bad Q3 numbers in the most favorable light possible and this modified "Be glad you have a job" article is the opening shot at Organized labor as contracts become amendable and addressing the pilot issues with vague comparisons

Doug and the ever glib Kirby can sling the bull excrement with the very best. I just hope no one stepped on this putrid bag of feces of Press Release masquerading as news


I don't understand all the attacks on "Doug and the ever glib Kirby". To quote you from another post.

"Great minds discuss idea and concepts

Average Minds discuss events

Small minds discuss People"

The ever ending bashing of Doug and Kirby is really old. Since you have not flown since July with US since July you might want to let go and move on and enjoy CO, etc. It's just not healthy.

Things can be done better by both mgmt and the unions. The attacks on the mgmt or the union are old.
 
It's really amusing how convenient it is for people to blame management for the pilot seniority issue.

When the merger took place, ALPA clearly told management to not get involved in the seniority list as it was a pilot and union issue, so they didn't. Now that it's a mess, it's management's fault. Give me a break.

As for Delta and Northwest pilots, they too will leave the seniority issue up to arbitration so don't say that issue is resolved because it isn't.

As for frequent flyers, if business travel is such a huge inconvenience in your life then find another job. Afterall, isn't that what you say about disgruntled airline employees.

And if you think that you are owed a free first-class seat or a free ticket for the sacrafice of being away from your family, then get your boss to buy you one. Or how about this, take a pay cut to increase your travel budget and buy your own upgrades.

As employees, we should be grateful for your business but if I had to choose between my job or giving away seats, I choose my job. I'm sure you would feel the same in your own business.

We are in the business of selling seats on an airplane. As a customer, you are owed a safe, clean environment while getting from point A to point B; as close to on-time as possible and with your bags. And through it all, hopefully you are treated in a courteous and respectful way. In other words -- good, realiable service. That is what Doug Parker believes in and we as a company have been trying to improve and be the best at.

Yes, if we were gushing in money, I'm sure our mangement would love to give our best customers whatever they want, but we are not. Southwest has the most money of all airlines and still does not offer first-class seats, assigned seats, lounges, service to smaller markets, meals or international destinations.

I know what you are going to say: but at least they offer good reliable service. Thank you, read above.
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That was the best post I've read in years. THANX FOR THE POST !!!!!!!
 
Geez I didn't know "Glib" was bad!

Would you be so kind as to serve jcw his order of Kool-Aide and don't forget to charge him two bucks.

Nice to be accused of drinking the kool-aide. It must be the same bashing kool-aide you drink. If you believe your own posts - "Small minds discuss People" you would not accuse me of drinking kool-aide and not be trashing mgmt or the union. If Doug and Kirby don't like FF's then don't fly US. Fly someone else. This way you hit US where it hurts - revenue.

You should follow your own advice and not discuss people.
 
Nice to be accused of drinking the kool-aide. It must be the same bashing kool-aide you drink. If you believe your own posts - "Small minds discuss People" you would not accuse me of drinking kool-aide and not be trashing mgmt or the union. If Doug and Kirby don't like FF's then don't fly US. Fly someone else. This way you hit US where it hurts - revenue.

You should follow your own advice and not discuss people.


Not to worry the freq.flyers are leaving or are already gone thanks to the decisions out of Tempe.
 

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