Pilots battle against 'Walmart-ing' of airline industry

usa1 said:
http://fortune.com/2014/05/08/pilots-battle-against-walmart-ing-of-airline-industry/?xid=tab_top30
 
A Norwegian-named airline based in Ireland that employs Thailand-based crews through a Singaporean pilot supply company? It’s a new world for airlines ..............
Pilots have been assisting companies outsourcing everyone else in the industry.
Maybe if they showed some solidarity, they would get some in return.
Otherwise, F---k them!
Your turn in the barrel... :p
 
Saw this on another forum:

"Respectfully, I really don't understand what you are questioning... If you cross a picket line and fly equipment, callsign, or flight number for an airline that has a striking pilot group, you are without question, a scab. If your country is invaded and you help or assist the enemy, then you are a collaborator or even a traitor.

Scabbing has nothing to do with Christianity, Judiasm, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, etc, or even athiesm. You have good and scumbag members of all these religions... Scabbing comes from selfishness and a "me first, screw everbody else" mentality.

In nearly every case (aside from the above mentioned stupidity from green card pilots who didn't know better), someone who scabs intends to get ahead of another by "pushing the striker and their family out of the lifeboat" so that the scab may benefit, regardless of the cost to the worker making a stand. This isn't even really a conservative or liberal issue, because Trade Unionism IS the American Way and the Right to organize is something that most American workers have... Rush, Hannity, O'Reily are ALL union members. CEO's have one of the most powerful unions of all, their B.O.D. Lawyers have the BAR, Doctors have the AMA. And of course, politicians who vote in pay raises for themselves and get the best health care, but want NO minimum wage and fight health care for those they represent, have the best union of all.. Themselves. And the Airlines themselves even have their own union, Airlines for America (formerly the Air Transport Association, or ATA), which fights anything, including safety, that affects their bottom line.

What you got from the AMERICAN labor union movement is the much beloved: end of indentured servitude, end of forced child labor, paid vacation, paid sick time, workplace safety, 40 hour work week, the American Middle Class, and too many other things to mention. Remember, prior to trade unions, America was a third world Bangladesh-like low cost labor country with ridiculous disparity between the classes. Our Forefathers fought the Robber Barrons, who owned 99% of the Nations wealth to help create the American Middle class. They, in turn with the GI Bill, helped educate millions and paid for their children's educations with good-paying union jobs. How about FMLA? Guess who fought for that? Certainly no the scabs... You're welcome....

What pilot union representation has gotten you is the safest aviation industry in the world. Pilot unions fought for our safety and paid for it with their blood. Most of the regulations we have were again, paid for with blood. Like the NASA form? Like TCASII? The airlines cost benefit analysts determined that it was too expensive, and that it would be better for the bottom line to just pay the claims after the mid-air collision. FFDO, CRM, fixed distance markers, standard airport markings, lightings, etc., ARTCC, TAWS, GPWS, standard instrument panels, Terminal Doppler radar, cockpit wx radar, etc. are some of the many things that pilot unions fought for years to get. You are safer, not because of the good wills of the Robber Barrons or various airline management teams over the years, but because of the many pilot unions that fought to make things safer DESPITE THE COST. Again, you're welcome.

Yes, we are all dealing with the "new" economy of post September 11, but that doesn't allow us to scab for an airline and push wages and working conditions down. That is being a scab, or better yet a traitor to ones profession."
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
Saw this on another forum:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/union-talk/81726-just-wondering-about-scabs-11.html
 
IMHO, they are talking about pilots scabbing pilots.
The don't give a chit about anyone else.
The 'scab' policies have been marginalized by unions, in some cases, it is built into their CBA.
We had a meat packers union strike in CA at Safeway, so I shopped at Lucky's.
One of my good ole union 'brothers' still shopped at Safeway but said he didn't buy butchered meat.
So where is the line?
NWA pilots crossed AMFA picket lines because their union told them to.
I remember hearing that they never crossed a picket line as we were at the NWA gate and they were dropped off at the Delta gate, never saw a picket line, so it didn't exist... :p
If unions do not support each other, then where is their power?
 
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