Rolls-Royce wins US Airways engine deal

[BoeingBoy]

I'm not saying you are incorrect, but where are the additional 5 you claim specified - i.e., in which Order documents?

FWAAA was just referencing what the article said, which happens to agree with RR's press release. Maybe RR is wrong......

Jim

 

[FWAAA]

Since when? The Agreement as of 1/31/2008 was for 15 firm (with 333 and 340 substitute options) and 10 undefined delivery date Options (the original order) - that's a total of 25 from Airbus. It does not include the 2 to be leased from Swiss in late 2008 or early 2009, via ILFC. I'm not saying you are incorrect, but where are the additional 5 you claim specified - i.e., in which Order documents?

I may be incorrect - and for that I apologize - BoeingBoy is right. One poster above surmised that the order was actually for the A350s. The RR press release mentions that it's an order "to power up to 30 Airbus A330-200 twinjets." Key is that "up to" phrase.

It may be 15 firm and only 10 options - but option totals can be fluid - so it might turn out to be an order to power only 15 airplanes (the firm orders) or maybe 25 (the firm plus the 10 options mentioned in the earlier order announcements. Or it might turn out to be for "as many as 30" airplanes. Or, since the order provides flexibility to change to different types - who knows how many? 🙂

 

[BuffaloJoe]

To make them compatible with the 350-800 and -900 engine types, which will also be Trent.

That makes sense. Also the A330 online now will be 10+ years older than the 200's.

 

[InternationalShannon]

Is Rolls Royce excited about this? I mean, I bet I could convince the bum down the street to let me manufacture his uber yacht, but, how do I know he's not going to piss that dollar he showed me away on booze? Haa!! haha!! Just kidding.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Is Rolls Royce excited about this?

Well, look at it this way - RR won't deliver a single Trent engine* until Airbus has the airplane on the assembly line, and then the engines go to Airbus to put on the plane, so it's not like they're building all these engines in hope of getting paid sometime.

*With the maintenance portion of the contract, they'll probably supply some spares to US, but I suspect they'll still belong to RR until US puts them on an airplane.

Jim

 

[Dog Wonder]

Rolls Royce?

US Airways?

Dog Wonder

Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, all of them at once.

How much money would that take?

 

[BoeingBoy]

How much money would that take?

More than I have to spend on some of those things - I couldn't afford the alimony.....

Jim

 

[FutureUScapt]

That makes sense. Also the A330 online now will be 10+ years older than the 200's.

True, and depending on the fuel economics of the A358, I wouldn't be surprised to see the A333s start going out the door once the A350s arrive, given that they are basically the same size and the A333s aren't powered by Rolls Royce engines.

 

[bigbusboy]

True, and depending on the fuel economics of the A358, I wouldn't be surprised to see the A333s start going out the door once the A350s arrive, given that they are basically the same size and the A333s aren't powered by Rolls Royce engines.

You might be right. I'll bet the first A350s will be replacement A/C for the A333s.

 

[ChrisUS]

This is very good news. However just an FYI, we are picking up two A330-200's from Swiss MSNs 275 and 366 that are PW 4168 Series powered.
Regards
DC

Would this be for the China service? When are we getting these?

 

[bigbusboy]

Would this be for the China service? When are we getting these?

Yes. FEB/MAR 2009. We will also be using the Swiss configuration as well (temporarily)

 

[yvrusfa]

Yes. FEB/MAR 2009. We will also be using the Swiss configuration as well (temporarily)

Hey Bigbusboy...

Q: Are those two Swiss 332's the ones with three-class (12/42/142) config...or the two-class (48/142) congfiguration?
If it is the three class type, with 12 flat bed seats COULD they run it PHL-PEK because of the low number of seats and offer the beds as an "Envoy+" type of service? Perhaps it might give it a sufficient range without too much weight restriction?

I am not sure which config. the two a/c we are getting are.....do you know?

Thanks. 🙂

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

US Airways is the 52nd customer or operator to select the Trent 700 for the A330 and will take delivery of its first Trent-powered A330 in 2009.

USair just keeps rehashing and gloriously announcing 'another' Airbus order.

The airline will never take delivery of these A330s.

But they sure get the mileage out of these distraction PR moves.

 

[philly rocks]

The RR product may have changed over the years but I distinctly remember RR engines were much heavier and the operating empty weight was much higher for weights and balance. This caused dumping much more fuel on take-off with critical flights. Alot of carriers in the past stayed away from these engines-although they were the "cadillac" product. With fuel costs soaring, unless they reduced the weight of the engine on RR it would be a very "critical" issue with todays economy and oil prices.

Anyone know if this is still an issue with RR or did they reduce the weight of these engines in latter years?