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aafsc,

Excellent point, I remember seeing a Mechanic from ALK who blew the whistle, he is no longer working and not by choice.
 
keeptheodds said:
I have no control over either. Nor do you or your union. The market dictates all. Every individual is responsible for his own well being in normal everyday life. Most people put all their eggs in one basket. Then when something goes wrong there is no plan B. So they join a gang to make themselves feel safer about their choices. Then when that fails like it is doing here they get mad at the world like Bob does.

I can work in the aviation industry with just a phone call. I can work in the carpentry business with just one phone call. I can work in the medical equipment business with just one phone call. I can work in the electrical business with one phone call. I can go home and live off my wife with just one plane ticket.

One must be very diversified to live in today’s world.

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But are you proficient in any of these? When I fly an aircraft, I want an A&P who is PROFICIENT AND EXPERIENCED and knows what they are doing. If I recall, the mechanic that rigged those elevator cables was NOT PROFICIENT AND INEXPERIENCED IN THAT JOB. THAT IS WHY THE PLANE CRASHED. And I don't believe the pay was that great. There was so many levels of outsourcing that quality control was totally lost.
 
It sure is nice having some normal people making decent posts and asking professional questions to engage in a productive debate.

Yes Diz I am here by choice. I could just as well be in Waco Tx. right now but I choose this contract. If you would scan through and read some of my previous posts you will get a better understanding about where I'm coming from.

Before the strike I didn’t believe there would be a strike. I was here for the training, pay and paid hotel. This is the first I have seen this type of contract in eleven years any contractor would be a fool not to take advantage of it. I looked into NW and AMFA and decided that AMFA would be foolish to strike. I shoot over here to collect my bounty thinking I would be home in a month or so. Simple easy contract right? Wrong.
AMFA striked! They were in a loose loose situation and they struck to loose it all. Unbelievable.

I started making posts here to tell the mechanics what Northwest was doing here, to assist them in making a sound decision. Instead of getting intelligent questions about what was happening over in Arizona, all I got was ridiculed. They had an inside informant and killed it. Then replaced it with a bitter adversary. When I came here I didn’t care one way or another about unions now I despise them after seeing how they can brainwash its members. These fanatic union guys cannot see the forest for the trees.

Yes I am very much proficient in my trades. I can work on any aircraft. They are all the same. They all have the exact same components and systems. Different manufactures apply them differently but the basics are there. Learning a particular manufacturers quirks is the most difficult thing about aircraft. It takes a few months to do this especially when you are dealing with multiple types. It does not take two years.
I have often been at facilities where pencil whipping goes on. In every incident that I was involved in or heard about it I always went to a QC guy that I could trust. It was always set up as if he stumbled across it my name never came up. QC has always handled it. I’ve never had to play the FAA card but in any case had the problem not been resolved I would have.

Mikey I’m not here to screw any one. NW and AMFA have both already done that. I’m here to pick up the pieces.

aafsc you are absolutely correct. Me personally I wouldn’t want to go back so that’s not an issue for me. Yes it might take years but who cares. When you have witnesses and FAA reports backing you and you are right you will win and lawyers will take this case on consignment.
 
keeptheodds,
I have been with five different air operators and been in the field for over twenty years and have never seen contractors that have not had quality related issues and normally had personal issues that kept them from being hired full time by a reputable company. It makes me wonder why you have been a contractor for 11 years. I think you may have some issues.
 
pitguy said:
keeptheodds,
I have been with five different air operators and been in the field for over twenty years and have never seen contractors that have not had quality related issues and normally had personal issues that kept them from being hired full time by a reputable company. It makes me wonder why you have been a contractor for 11 years. I think you may have some issues.
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I have not been a contractor for 11 years I have had two permanent aviation jobs. I quit both of them shortly after moving into management positions. I fully understand your problems with management. Let me also add you cannot work for a contract company if you have a felony or you fail a drug screen or if you are blacklisted at DOT. I’m pretty sure that goes for any aviation company.
 
Fair enough. I am just speaking from my years in the field. Contractor types generally are not what a reputable operator wants for a safe operation.
 
pitguy said:
Fair enough.  I am just speaking from my years in the field.  Contractor types generally are not what a reputable operator wants for a safe operation.
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With out contractors about 80% of the U.S. aviation fleet would be grounded. Idiot
 
Just like a typical contractor. I have seen these gypsy types that can not hold down a steady job. Some are into booze, have credit problems, personally unstable, poor work habits, attendance issues, poor quality workmanship, etc... The majority are losers in life. It is sad. I feel sorry for you.
 
pitguy said:
Just like a typical contractor.  I have seen these gypsy types that can not hold down a steady job.  Some are into booze, have credit problems, personally unstable, poor work habits, attendance issues, poor quality workmanship, etc...  The majority are losers in life.  It is sad.  I feel sorry for you.
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Jack I need no pity from you. I love my life. I am a happy man. We do have some of those that you speak of but it is not the majority.
 
keeptheodds said:
I can go home and live off my wife with just one plane ticket.


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Pathetic! You choose to travel around the country while leaving your wife at home and then you are so successful she even has to work. Real big man! :lol:
 
Keep the Odds, don't you know women shouldn't work, shouldn't vote, segragation should be reinstated......that would make everything like it was "back in the day" for these yokels.
 
I never said women should not work. One does what one has to do to provide for one's family. The SCAB above has boasted of how well he is doing. To me leaving your family behind and traveling the country by choice is typical of the losers I normally see as contractors. You would think that at least him being so successful at least she would not have to work. I am sorry if I stepped on your little man head.


--I can see it all now. "Oh I am so good. I am such a success. I have on of the nicest trailers in the park and when I come in from the road my wife's boyfriend leaves and she focuses all of her attention on me and makes me feel like a big man which she knows I am not and I say now honey go get me a beer." :lol:
 
keeptheodds said:

I can work in the aviation industry with just a phone call. I can work in the carpentry business with just one phone call. I can work in the medical equipment business with just one phone call. I can work in the electrical business with one phone call. I can go home and live off my wife with just one plane ticket.

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I guess your wife is lucky that with all those options you choose none of them, instead you choose to be a scab.
 
You know one easy way to spot a contractor out in the field? Look at their teeth. None of them have dental insurance and their teeth look like crap.


--"Oh! I am a big man. I can walk away from this job just like I did the last twelve jobs. Haha! I am my own boss. No one telling me what to do.... Oh no, I don't have any money in the bank. No, I don't have a retirement. But I am a loser and don't need anything." :lol:
 
pitguy said:
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Pathetic! You choose to travel around the country while leaving your wife at home and then you are so successful she even has to work. Real big man! :lol:
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Funny thing is most wrench gypsies are like most other work groups who spend weeks/months away from home, they usally have been married numerous times because those wives get lonely and seek out attention from someone who is able to meet those needs! don't believe it? ask any long haul over the road truck driver, heck just converse with a few bitter Pilots 🙄
 
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