SCOPE

[eolesen]

Sounds like Charlie Bryan 20 years later. Look how well that worked out for labor...


The only thing that's certain in any bankruptcy is that labor is going to have their contracts shredded.

 

[frontline]

No raise = NO VOTE!

If no work groups get a pay increase this time around...

We will send AA into BK! This way nobody gets their bone-us!

Do you really think the execs won't get theirs? The bankruptcy-proof pensions and all that, you can bet they are still going to get paid. The ones who get screwed in bk are the working backbone of this company. It's great that you can go get a job flying 773ERs for Emirates but who am I going to work for? DeltaNorthwestUnitedAirways?

I sure hope the majority of the pilots are not as pig headed.

 

[FrequentFlierCA]

I doubt APA will agree to it. AA has yet to offer any pay increase to any of the work groups on property. AA did offer APA an increase in productivity from 77 to 81 hours. They said NO!

Cash talks and the AA bull**** walks!

I don't think they'll agree to it, either, and that's a mistake that may come back to haunt them.

I still can't believe APA's demands on codesharing. AA has said that would mean $3.5 billion in revenue would be lost. I can understand asking for better pay and benefits, and I even understand the work issues with SCOPE and why they want to end codesharing. What I don't get is how APA can be so completely out of touch with reality to suggest that AA reduce its revenue in any way. It would also screw some of the customer base from primarily codeshare markets (think intra-west coast and Alaska). The LAST thing AA needs right now is any hit to its revenue streams.

 

[flyhigh]

FrequentFlyer...that's long term thinking you're using there. Union leaders have done a great job of convincing the masses that it matters not what effect their demands have on the whole (the ability of a company to compete) just the part (the paycheck in their pocket). That's management's job. Worrying about their future is of no concern...that doesn't win tomorrow's election.

...and BigBangTheory...cash may walk but at the rate fuel is stealing it away the bank accounts of America's airlines are quickly begining to limp and will soon be in wheelchairs. I'm not saying the people of American Airlines don't deserve raises. Hell, with gas and now food prices soaring, everyone deserves a raise. The reality is that I think you would best be served by asking for 1-3% and requiring that management at the director and above level get only that much as well including bonuses and stock.

 

[wingit88]

I don't think they'll agree to it, either, and that's a mistake that may come back to haunt them.

I still can't believe APA's demands on codesharing. AA has said that would mean $3.5 billion in revenue would be lost. I can understand asking for better pay and benefits, and I even understand the work issues with SCOPE and why they want to end codesharing. What I don't get is how APA can be so completely out of touch with reality to suggest that AA reduce its revenue in any way. It would also screw some of the customer base from primarily codeshare markets (think intra-west coast and Alaska). The LAST thing AA needs right now is any hit to its revenue streams.

APA could care less about anything but themselves. The antics they have been pulling, especially lately, does nothing to help anyone's position in negotiations with management. We have busted our butts to help generate more revenue for the company, yet they want to find every opportunity to knock it down. Do they have their heads in the clouds?

 

[Mrs. McFly]

APA could care less about anything but themselves. The antics they have been pulling, especially lately, does nothing to help anyone's position in negotiations with management. We have busted our butts to help generate more revenue for the company, yet they want to find every opportunity to knock it down. Do they have their heads in the clouds?

There are many pilots out there that are less than impressed with the shenanigans of the APA leadership. And although some of these pilots may not be overly thrilled with the SCOPE proposals, they also realize that AA has to stay competitive and within the realm of others in the industry.

 

[FrequentFlierCA]

There are many pilots out there that are less than impressed with the shenanigans of the APA leadership. And although some of these pilots may not be overly thrilled with the SCOPE proposals, they also realize that AA has to stay competitive and within the realm of others in the industry.

I hope that's the case. I'd hate to see one of AA's professional, respected work groups tarnish its image by forcing the company into reorganization via irresponsible and unsustainable demands on the company. AA's pilots could easily go from best to worst paid in the industry.