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Article is in Swedish but basically Dilba, a famous Swedish singer, was annoyed with security in ARN before her US flight to PHL and onwards to LAS. She told them "I will make the airplane explode."

Maybe she meant explode with infectious Swedish pop a la ABBA, Roxette, and Ace of Base? I saw the si-ign! :lol:

Wait, here's an article in English- she was on her way to the World Series of Poker. US Airways european spokeslady denies her claims she is banned for life.

Singer- 'I have planes to bomb'
 
"I replied that I had some planes to bomb on the way home. He didn't find that a bit amusing," she told the newspaper.

Airport Security guards were quickly called over and Dilba was taken away for questioning.

"I was pulled out of the queue and treated like a terrorist," she told Expressen.


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Well, Dilba, you were treated like a terrorist because you talked like a terrorist. Duh!
 
In April 2005 I was in CLT going to MIA. Lots of pax going on cruises that day, everything was overbooked going to MIA & FLL. My flight to MIA was overbooked(I had positive space tickets)gate agent was trying to get volunteers but not enough took the bait. So 40 minutes after scheduled dept. time the aircraft pushed back with 12 pax denied boarding, me included. Needless to say there were some irate people at the gate.

The agent was trying to re-book people and give out round trip vouchers for the denied boarding. One lady told the agent she was not going to accept the free round trip voucher and she was going to "pursue the matter for a lot more than a round trip voucher".

Here is where my story gets interesting. There was this college age kid that had that grunge rocker look and he asked the agent if his suitcase and guitar was on the plane that had now started its taxi for take off. The agent told him yes his bag and guitar was on the plane but would be held for him until he got to MIA. This gut goes nuts, he starts demanding the plane be returned to the gate so he can get his guitar, the agent told him that was not possible and his guitar would be fine.

After a few more words this kid tells the agent "I want my guitar back now! as far as you know there could be a bomb in it". I was thinking , fella you just said the wrong thing. I was waiting for him to be tackled by the airport police at any moment. Nothing happened. The agent heard him make the statement to her but she completely ignored it. I don't know why she ignored him but she acted like he never said it. That kid has no idea what a favor that gate agent did for him that day.

I've always wondered why she didn't have him arrested and the plane returned to the gate. Maybe it was her last flight before getting off work and just didn't want the hassle.
 
Sounds like another spoiled rich kid. She's lucky she's not charged with any crime.

I guess Americans are not the only smarta$$es in the world after all.
 
"I replied that I had some planes to bomb on the way home. He didn't find that a bit amusing," she told the newspaper.

Airport Security guards were quickly called over and Dilba was taken away for questioning.

"I was pulled out of the queue and treated like a terrorist," she told Expressen.
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Well, Dilba, you were treated like a terrorist because you talked like a terrorist. Duh!

Why ever would a "real" terrorist state what they had or were going to do?

A "real" terrorist would make every attempt to blend in, wouldn't they?

I mean, does everyone think someone is going to indicate somehow that they are terrorists? I guess that is what bothers me about crewmembers running around with their hair on fire every time they see someone in robes deploy a mat and kneel to mecca, praying to Allah. Believe me, there will be nothing obvious about a real bad guy. His entire stick will be to blend in and you will only notice him when he is good and ready.

Dilba was rightfully treated as a sick person and not a terrorist.

Too bad Americans haven't matured that far yet, seemingly more content to be the center of attention during their drama queen moments.
 
Why ever would a "real" terrorist state what they had or were going to do?

A "real" terrorist would make every attempt to blend in, wouldn't they?

I mean, does everyone think someone is going to indicate somehow that they are terrorists? I guess that is what bothers me about crewmembers running around with their hair on fire every time they see someone in robes deploy a mat and kneel to mecca, praying to Allah. Believe me, there will be nothing obvious about a real bad guy. His entire stick will be to blend in and you will only notice him when he is good and ready.

Dilba was rightfully treated as a sick person and not a terrorist.

Too bad Americans haven't matured that far yet, seemingly more content to be the center of attention during their drama queen moments.


But wait! Isn't this what you want? People to be judged on their behavior, not their appearance or ethnicity? If "real" terrorists are never going to give even the smallest hint of suspicious behavior before commiting their crime, doesn't that require the use of unsavory methods like profiling in order to stop them?
 
But wait! Isn't this what you want? People to be judged on their behavior, not their appearance or ethnicity? If "real" terrorists are never going to give even the smallest hint of suspicious behavior before commiting their crime, doesn't that require the use of unsavory methods like profiling in order to stop them?

So, a white man like, say, McVey, pulls up in front of a federal building. You, as director of security pass him because you are profiling for middle east or asian Muslims.

You lose.

Sorry, I cannot imagine how stupid your scenario is. Hopefully, I misunderstand.
 
So, a white man like, say, McVey, pulls up in front of a federal building. You, as director of security pass him because you are profiling for middle east or asian Muslims.

You lose.

Sorry, I cannot imagine how stupid your scenario is. Hopefully, I misunderstand.

You do, as usual.

You seem to be critical of crewmembers/gate agents who respond to what they consider suspicious behavior. You go on to state you believe its impossible to identify potential security threats by how they behave prior to a flight. You then go on to point out the holes that exist in a narrow method of profiling.

So the question remains: how would you identify a legitimate threat prior to that threat boarding a flight?
 
You do, as usual.

You seem to be critical of crewmembers/gate agents who respond to what they consider suspicious behavior. You go on to state you believe its impossible to identify potential security threats by how they behave prior to a flight. You then go on to point out the holes that exist in a narrow method of profiling.

So the question remains: how would you identify a legitimate threat prior to that threat boarding a flight?


I actually, in this case, do not think I misunderstand.

Your definition of "suspicious behavior" is ridiculous, at best. It reflects the ignorant Faux news watcher who could not pick out a problem person if it killed them.

I never said it was "impossible to identify potential security threats" by how they behave. I said that identifiers highlighted by media fools might mislead you.

There is a "narrow" method of profiling? How so? What is the "wide" method?

The question for you, mr. profiler, is how would you identify a legitimate threat prior to that threat boarding a flight? I already have my plan. How about you?

Hint: the last person I might suspect is the one who acts different from US behavior but the same as another behavior concordant with a different culture. i.e. devout Muslims pray five times a day to Mecca. If one acted as a devout Muslim yet did not pray five times, I would suspect him. But that takes global knowledge, something many Americans lack. Heck your president can not even find Iran on a global map! How did you reelect such a moron!

You are not alone. Less than 5% of the prisoners in GITMO have anything to do with terrorism or Al Queda, per your own Pentagon. Good show, 'Merica. 'Mericans imprison people, well, just because.

Thanks for the fish........
 
I actually, in this case, do not think I misunderstand.

Your definition of "suspicious behavior" is ridiculous, at best. It reflects the ignorant Faux news watcher who could not pick out a problem person if it killed them.

My definition? Hardly. YOU were the one that commented on the behavior of the person mentioned in the article.

I never said it was "impossible to identify potential security threats" by how they behave. I said that identifiers highlighted by media fools might mislead you.

You actually said nothing of the kind. Your comment was directed toward the behavior of the person involved. You then went on to extrapolate that example to the generic, with the conclusion of

"Believe me, there will be nothing obvious about a real bad guy. His entire stick will be to blend in and you will only notice him when he is good and ready."

No mention of media hyped stereotypes or secret clues that only you can identify.


There is a "narrow" method of profiling? How so? What is the "wide" method?

The narrow method that, again, YOU identified - Asian and Middle Eastern Muslims. You used the example to illustrate how such profiling would have missed Tim McVeigh. Again - your example, not mine.

The question for you, mr. profiler, is how would you identify a legitimate threat prior to that threat boarding a flight? I already have my plan. How about you?

Hint: the last person I might suspect is the one who acts different from US behavior but the same as another behavior concordant with a different culture. i.e. devout Muslims pray five times a day to Mecca. If one acted as a devout Muslim yet did not pray five times, I would suspect him. But that takes global knowledge, something many Americans lack. Heck your president can not even find Iran on a global map! How did you reelect such a moron!

You are not alone. Less than 5% of the prisoners in GITMO have anything to do with terrorism or Al Queda, per your own Pentagon. Good show, 'Merica. 'Mericans imprison people, well, just because.

Thanks for the fish........

Truley laughable. Only those who are privy to your "global knowledge" are able to identify potential threats. Interesting. And this global knowledge somehow involves spotting somebody, for example, who "acted as a devout Muslim but yet did not pray five times." So in the context of your contact with that person, which I'm assuming at best is limited to that person's time at the airport, you are going to be able to determine that he or she is in fact devout, despite the fact that he or she does not pray 5 times a day. How exactly does one act devout if one is intentionally hiding such behavior in order to not draw attention to themselves? How, exactly, is your "global knowledge" going to give you the insight to spot Muslims who act devout, despite the fact that they are in fact not acting devout?

As far as your predictable and formulaic attenmpts to pigeonhole me into some sort of political leaning you feel comfortable refuting... come now. You can talk about Faux News and the White House and GITMO all day, and you and your global knowlegde will still have no idea what my politics are.

After all, maybe Im a devout liberal who isn't acting liberal.... hmmmmmmm....
 
My definition? Hardly. YOU were the one that commented on the behavior of the person mentioned in the article.

Actually, it was you who brought up profiling. I commented on behavior, obviously something well beyond your ken. El Al uses behavioral profiling to filter passengers, something with which you are obviously ignorant.

You actually said nothing of the kind. Your comment was directed toward the behavior of the person involved. You then went on to extrapolate that example to the generic, with the conclusion of

"Believe me, there will be nothing obvious about a real bad guy. His entire stick will be to blend in and you will only notice him when he is good and ready."

No mention of media hyped stereotypes or secret clues that only you can identify.

I never said "I can identify". I simply said, that when it happens, it will be fast. Get used to it, drama queen. You will never identify a good terrorist. You must respond in a proper manner when he reacts, otherwise, you die. Training is a good thing.

If more than one is involved, chances are the second will have a bomb with a dead-man switch. He goes unconscious, you die.

Aw, what am I doing? You want a class, I'll provide one, for money. Email me.

I cannot believe Americans are so ignorant.
 
Had a lady passenger in YUL boarding with a large box. F/A asked what was inside and she replied "a bomb". We called security and forced her to open the box. She then replied "mehhhhhhhhhrde!" (French for s**t)

It was a hat.
 

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