TWU...local 100

[Bob Owens]

Interesting, Bob. Controlling the money is obviously the key difference.

Dumb question, perhaps, but aside from appointed leaders being in favor of divide/conquer, what stops the ATD locals from consolidating into a single local per company, controlling dues flow, and taking ownership of the contracts?

The locals do not have the authority to consolidate, the International determines structure.

 

[Bob Owens]

It also helps if the employer (MTA and Bloomberg) is a pussy who won't throw people in jail for breaking the law and causing billions of dollars in economic damages.

The MTA is a seperate entity from the NYC government and Toussaint did go to jail for acting on his beliefs.

I have more respect for pond scum than I do NYC MTA employees, and I mean that from two perspectives: 1) they flagrantly break state law and get away with it, and 2) they are rude to their customers and get away with it.

Why does that not suprise me? I see that you are from SC and apparently have great concern that people obey state law, even if those laws are unfair. Let me guess do you wear one of those long white costumes on the weekend and burn crosses too? As far as MTA workers being rude tell that to the hundreds of people who were trapped in the WTC station on 9-11. A "rude lawbreaker" that you described disobeyed management orders to go through the station without stopping and saved hundreds of lives by doing so.

I wish AA employees a better future, and please use something other than Satan with which to compare yourselves. You don't deserve that.

??? Nevermind, its probably not worth addressing anyway.

 

[JS]

So in the long run the Mayor and the MTA should have agreed to the demands of local 100

Thus saving billions of dollars in economic damage.

But today the corporate mentality is to break the unions no matter what the cost or the impact to society.

That is why we strike.

If the MTA increases wages to avoid a strike, taxes go up. Where's the savings?

 

[JS]

The MTA is a seperate entity from the NYC government and Toussaint did go to jail for acting on his beliefs.

Why didn't the striking employees go to jail as well? If I commit a crime, I can't avoid punishment because someone else told me to do it.

Why does that not suprise me? I see that you are from SC and apparently have great concern that people obey state law, even if those laws are unfair. Let me guess do you wear one of those long white costumes on the weekend and burn crosses too?

For your information, I hate SC and look forward to moving away. There are some laws that are really stupid and waste taxpayer dollars and even result in people going to jail unnecessarily.

Laws that prohibit public employees from striking are good ones. Otherwise the entire populace is at the mercy of union thugs.

As far as MTA workers being rude tell that to the hundreds of people who were trapped in the WTC station on 9-11. A "rude lawbreaker" that you described disobeyed management orders to go through the station without stopping and saved hundreds of lives by doing so.

That is not what I am talking about.

On my last trip to NYC, I observed a rude MTA employee twice. One was a bus driver chewing out a customer who didn't understand much English who was trying to pay the fare. The driver went on and on with "Don't you try to fool me; I ain't stupid" If I were a supervisor I would have fired her butt right then and there and driven the bus the rest of her shift.

The second incident was on the #7 train where the conductor said "stupid f*cks" referring to customers who didn't understand his poorly uttered announcement as to how to reach bypassed stations due to track work.

These are not the kind of people who deserve a raise. What they should be doing, at best, is picking up trash; let people who have social skills work with the public.

 

[Get Over It Already]

What they should be doing, at best, is picking up trash;

they are picking up trash since thats who rides the bus and subway in NY

 

[Bob Owens]

If the MTA increases wages to avoid a strike, taxes go up. Where's the savings?

Wrong again, the MTA ran a huge surplus. There was more than enough in the surplus to pay for the raises.

 

[Bob Owens]

Why didn't the striking employees go to jail as well? If I commit a crime, I can't avoid punishment because someone else told me to do it.

Since when is it a crime for someone to not go to work? My question is why should Toussaint have gone to jail?

For your information, I hate SC and look forward to moving away.

Do us all a favor and stay there.

There are some laws that are really stupid and waste taxpayer dollars and even result in people going to jail unnecessarily.

Exactly, like the law that put Toussaint in Jail.

On my last trip to NYC, I observed a rude MTA employee twice. One was a bus driver chewing out a customer who didn't understand much English who was trying to pay the fare. The driver went on and on with "Don't you try to fool me; I ain't stupid" If I were a supervisor I would have fired her butt right then and there and driven the bus the rest of her shift.

More than likely her supervisor would have wanted her to do exactly as she did, make sure the person pays the correct fare and do it as quickly as possible to stay on schedule.

The second incident was on the #7 train where the conductor said "stupid f*cks" referring to customers who didn't understand his poorly uttered announcement as to how to reach bypassed stations due to track work.

It must have been your drawl. Timelyness is more important than politeness with the MTA, maybe you should go to Japan where they hire people to shove you into the train.

These are not the kind of people who deserve a raise. What they should be doing, at best, is picking up trash; let people who have social skills work with the public.

You ran into two people you didnt like out of the thousands that are working on any given day at any given time and that gives you the right to judge the whole workforce? The fact is the NYC MTA is the most effecient, cost effective, extensive and reliable mass transit system in the world and its the 36000 Local 100 members that make it that way.

 

[Wretched Wrench]

I hate all DMV employees and want their wages cut because two of them were rude to me.

It's all about me.

 

[eolesen]

It's all about me.

Oh, stop it already. You're sounding like a pilot.

 

[Hackman]

Oh, stop it already. You're sounding like a pilot.

Instead, "We deserve millions in bonuses or we will leave".... :down:

Well, buh-bye......watch that screen door on your way out...... :huh:

 

[JS]

Wrong again, the MTA ran a huge surplus. There was more than enough in the surplus to pay for the raises.

The surplus belongs to the taxpayers.

Since when is it a crime for someone to not go to work? My question is why should Toussaint have gone to jail?

It is not a crime for someone to resign. It is a crime for public employees to strike.

More than likely her supervisor would have wanted her to do exactly as she did, make sure the person pays the correct fare and do it as quickly as possible to stay on schedule.

That is not an issue, as the driver was driving the bus while chewing out the passenger. It's NYC, they don't wait for people to pay the fare before hitting the gas.

Insulting an innocent customer in any business is uncalled for and you know it. It's one thing to be pro-union, and that I can respect, but I cannot respect people or their sympathizers when they show such disdain for the people who are paying their salaries through taxes and fares.

It must have been your drawl. Timelyness is more important than politeness with the MTA, maybe you should go to Japan where they hire people to shove you into the train.

For your information I do not have a Southern accent. As with the bus incident, the conductor's behavior had nothing to do with on-time operations.

You ran into two people you didnt like out of the thousands that are working on any given day at any given time and that gives you the right to judge the whole workforce? The fact is the NYC MTA is the most effecient, cost effective, extensive and reliable mass transit system in the world and its the 36000 Local 100 members that make it that way.

I didn't run into thousands of MTA employees in one day. I interacted with around fix or six, so two is actually a very poor ratio. And those aren't the only two times I've seen an MTA employee be rude to someone. I was giving you an example.

Obviously you have an agenda, which is: union=good, period, end of story.

 

[TWU informer]

I highly doubt that Bob Owens' is taking a position or having an agenda that being TWU=good

You have it all wrong

 

[Wretched Wrench]

Obviously you have an agenda, which is: union=good, period, end of story.

A Dee Dee?

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

The surplus belongs to the taxpayers

OK free coffee on every train between the hours of 11 AM to 1PM
😛

The rest of the surplus goes to the MTA employees for their dedication service and bad attitudes