W S J : 9 WORST states to get a raise

[SparrowHawk]

When you're working for a for-profit company, it should be a matter of choice to associate and share in the profits. Closed shop should be illegal like it is in Australia and other civilized countries. Make the union prove their worth, and give people the ability to fire them without putting their job at risk.

Government? Sorry, that's not a for-profit. You're not negotiating for a cut of the profits. You're negotiating to raise someone else's taxes.

Newsweek Just published their "Top 1000 High Schools in the US" and here are the top 15

The Top 15 are:
1. The Gatton Academy of Mathematics and Science in Kentucky, Bowling Green, Ky.
2. The School for the Talented and Gifted Magnet, Dallas
3. Basis Scottsdale, Scottsdale, Ariz.
4. School of Science and Engineering Magnet, Dallas
5. Basis Tucson, Tucson, Ariz.
6. Jefferson County International Baccalaureate School, Birmingham, Ala.
7. Signature School, Evansville, Ind.
8. Stanton College Preparatory School, Jacksonville, Fla.
9. Suncoast Community, Riviera Beach, Fla.
10. Thomas Jefferson for Science and Technology, Alexandria, Va.
11. City Honors School at Fosdick-Masten Park, Buffalo, N.Y.
12. School for Advanced Studies, Miami
13. Andrew Carnegie Vanguard, Houston
14. Uplift Education North Hills Preparatory School, Irving, Texas
15. Pine View School, Osprey, Fla.

If memory serves as I didn't look to be certain, that off the top 15 exactly ONE is in a Closed Shop state. Now I don't know if it's cause and effect but one could easily arrive at that point.

I'm not in favor of RTW without the appropriate dismantling of the NLRB, NMB and all of the laws surrounding Union Activity. If we are going to have an open and free Labor Market then it has to be open to both sides not just management with RTW. A free Labot Market would ultimately raise wages over time. It would also force hide bound dinosaurs like the IAM to

 

[tom barry]

When you're working for a for-profit company, it should be a matter of choice to associate and share in the profits. Closed shop should be illegal like it is in Australia and other civilized countries. Make the union prove their worth, and give people the ability to fire them without putting their job at risk.

Government? Sorry, that's not a for-profit. You're not negotiating for a cut of the profits. You're negotiating to raise someone else's taxes.

" Give PEOPLE the ability to..F I R E ...them " ............... As in, a supervisor ..HATES another employees "Existence", and because the Supervisor is " well connected" with the department head, then THAT Poor BAS-TARD is TOAST,........(That kind of "ABILITY" Eric) ????

 

[SparrowHawk]

" Give PEOPLE the ability to..F I R E ...them " ............... As in, a supervisor ..HATES another employees "Existence", and because the Supervisor is " well connected" with the department head, then THAT Poor BAS-TARD is TOAST,........(That kind of "ABILITY" Eric) ????

I'm OK with that! Part of being employed and successful is getting along with ones superiors and co workers. If not then you get to work elsewhere. It's called a free market. Did you ever stop to ponder that if you did your job so well that your immediate supervisor had little control over you as you had the relationship with his bosses?

I was in such a position for 4 years. I got my own supervisor banned (by our customer) from setting foot on the property as she caused more problems then she solved. Bottom line is my company lost control of the employee-employer relationship because the customer threatened to cancel the contract if they pulled my off the job. It was like being self employed with the full backing of a Fortune 50 Company.

This is why public perception of Unions is that they protect laziness.

 

[tom barry]

I'm OK with that! Part of being employed and successful is getting along with ones superiors and co workers. If not then you get to work elsewhere. It's called a free market. Did you ever stop to ponder that if you did your job so well that your immediate supervisor had little control over you as you had the relationship with his bosses?

I was in such a position for 4 years. I got my own supervisor banned (by our customer) from setting foot on the property as she caused more problems then she solved. Bottom line is my company lost control of the employee-employer relationship because the customer threatened to cancel the contract if they pulled my off the job. It was like being self employed with the full backing of a Fortune 50 Company.

This is why public perception of Unions is that they protect laziness.

Sparrow,
I'm glad things worked out for YOU,.........................B U T, if the "fix-is-in", a worker CAN be shite canned via a personality conflict !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE, oh PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by pontificating that that can NOT happen !

YOU know it(can)/Olesen knows it(can)/dell knows it(can) and I know it(can) !!

Now AGAIN,
Any Questions about what I just posted ?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Sparrow,
I'm glad things worked out for YOU,.........................B U T, if the "fix-is-in", a worker CAN be shite canned via a personality conflict !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE, oh PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by pontificating that that can NOT happen !

YOU know it(can)/Olesen knows it(can)/dell knows it(can) and I know it(can) !!

Now AGAIN,
Any Questions about what I just posted ?

It happenss everyday and I say "So What" The price of Liberty is risk. One of my employers laid off 108 people last May. Of those 108, 107 were over 50 amd #108 was 49. This is what capitalism is.

I've been on BOTH sides of the At will employement coin. Somedays you're in the Sunshine and sometimes you're in the shade. However I never have to suck up to some Union Thug and contribute money to people whose views I don't share. We saw how the IAM addresses competition for membership in PHL when 20 some of their "Brightest and best" proceeded to "Educate" the TWU with their fists. How charming! Count me out.

I'll take my chances without any so called "Help" from organized extortion er I mean Labor. Closed shops are by their very nature anti liberty.