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I just think it is a hoot that the ultimate end result of deregulation will be oligopoly.
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What's Next for US?
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Still think US should tell STAR Alliance and certainly "United" to TAKE A HIKE! With the possibility of US moving over to ONEWORLD (if they were to do so) then the Slot transaction with Delta really wouldn't matter. US is still the Top Carrier at DCA and the prospects of rethinking the LGA operation inconjunction with AA could seriously give STAR and Skyteam a serious 'run for their money'. There doesn't need to be a merger between US and AA, but a cozy partnership with NEW friends at ONEWORLD would allow ONEWORLD to regain it's prominence in NY (LGA and JFK), give New Life to the Shuttle and still keep PHL and CLT relevant..........and all at the same time telling STAR, Lufthansa and especially "United" that US doesn't need them either. The airline industry is basically coming down to a conglomeration of THREE Alliances and in a matter of time the respective brands will be irrelevant. US jumping ship, giving STAR the ultimate finger and moving over to the competitor just makes things a whole lot more interesting and will serve as a reminder, "You don't play nice, I can get pretty ugly too!'.
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Promoting the 'ugly girl' brand will get you nowhere.
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You missed the point. United didn't have ANY intention of consumating a merger with US and everyone should know that..........IT would have N-e-v-e-r passed the regulatory approval stage. Both US and UAL know that. United did EVERYTHING possible to force Continental to the merger table. And NOT that Continental needed a merge let alone hooking up with United. The Ugly is directed at United..........they did everything possible to manipulate their stock price. Why this isn't being looked at IS QUESTIONABLE. (Only in the USA).
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I don't think so. Continental was the more desirable merger partner. If US Airways is to have that status it needs to address the issues keeping it in the corner.
A kneejerk jump from Star would not do that.
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I don't think there will be much need for US in STAR with the footprint that the new UA/CO will cover. Sure US brings the southeast but that's about it. I don't see STAR sucking much out of US through PHL that it can't through CO in EWR. US and it's east coast presence at this point would be better served in One World quite possibly. In the meantime US better get it's crapola in order. Parker and co better take a real hard look and decide what they wants to do. I don't care how ANYONE tries to break it down US cannot compete strong and hard against these new mega carriers and LCC's chomping away at their profits. No way. Better think of something in those cubicles. 🙄
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I think we can all agree that US was used to get CO back to the table. Obviously it worked.
The sad fact is that US as it stands today brings nothing to the table in a potential merger with another carrier. As is true in many other businesses and products, its parts are worth more than the whole. If ANYTHING is to happen in the area of a merger or acquisition, I see US being broken up--the original HP/US merger basically being undone, and then being sold or merged as separate entities to any number of players.
I also agree with those who say that US brings little if any value to STAR after a CO/UA merger. I think that a change of alliances is in the cards sooner than later, and my best guess at this time continues to be OneWorld. But as we all know, if something makes no sense, it is likely to happen in the airline business.
The saddest part for me is that US once had the BEST employees in the business who were dedicated to taking care of their customers. These people, some of whom might still be at US today, have had their hands tied by ridiculous policies which have removed their authority to be proactive and help customers when things go wrong. I still shake my head when I realize that US has managed to drive away many of what once were the most LOYAL customers in the business, and that they DON'T SEEM TO CARE!
I still visit some of my friends in the clubs throughout the system thanks to my CO PC membership, and they tell me things are definitely different, and not necessarily in a good way.
IF US is serious about becoming attractive to a merger partner, they have to fix the fundamental problems which, if left as they are today, will not only keep them from a seat at the dance, but could cause concerns about long term survival within the next two years or so.
To my friends at US, I miss you guys and gals more than you know, but if you know me, you also know why I can't give Doug and Scooter a PENNY of my air travel dollar.
By the way this is being posted in flight on another airline.
My BEST to you all......
The sad fact is that US as it stands today brings nothing to the table in a potential merger with another carrier. As is true in many other businesses and products, its parts are worth more than the whole. If ANYTHING is to happen in the area of a merger or acquisition, I see US being broken up--the original HP/US merger basically being undone, and then being sold or merged as separate entities to any number of players.
I also agree with those who say that US brings little if any value to STAR after a CO/UA merger. I think that a change of alliances is in the cards sooner than later, and my best guess at this time continues to be OneWorld. But as we all know, if something makes no sense, it is likely to happen in the airline business.
The saddest part for me is that US once had the BEST employees in the business who were dedicated to taking care of their customers. These people, some of whom might still be at US today, have had their hands tied by ridiculous policies which have removed their authority to be proactive and help customers when things go wrong. I still shake my head when I realize that US has managed to drive away many of what once were the most LOYAL customers in the business, and that they DON'T SEEM TO CARE!
I still visit some of my friends in the clubs throughout the system thanks to my CO PC membership, and they tell me things are definitely different, and not necessarily in a good way.
IF US is serious about becoming attractive to a merger partner, they have to fix the fundamental problems which, if left as they are today, will not only keep them from a seat at the dance, but could cause concerns about long term survival within the next two years or so.
To my friends at US, I miss you guys and gals more than you know, but if you know me, you also know why I can't give Doug and Scooter a PENNY of my air travel dollar.
By the way this is being posted in flight on another airline.
My BEST to you all......
Harry Callahan
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Au usual my friend Art hit the nail on the head. I can only see this thing being split up some way East going one way & West the other & it will not be pretty.
The people in Tempe need to wake up. They are destroying this place.
The people in Tempe need to wake up. They are destroying this place.
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If once again running an efficient and on time operation, having the best financials of the legacy carriers in 1Q and projecting forward, and upgrading their International First and Business Class products well beyond what any other U.S. carrier has is manipulating the stock price then UAL is guilty as charged. How dare they make themselves an attractice suitor!!! Shame on them.
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AMR is trying to steal our Ugly Betty title. More press speculation of AA hookup.
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Nothing new here.
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Interesting article indeed but don't see any appeal of a US/Alaska combination. AA and AL yes but US/AL no. If US does in fact do anything, the only thing that really makes sense is AA, JetBlue and possibly Hawaiian. Hawaiian has a good operation to the Islands and has great potential in the Pacific. US should also look at SPIRIT strictly on the FLL operation to Central & South America, and the Caribbean. When US attempted the FLL hub years ago, the airport was NOT capable of that operation based on terminal facilities in place at the time. US pulled the plug on FLL way to early to even know whether the operation was feasible. They don't want to hear that though. (They would rather cut then add).
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