who deserves blame for PHL

[wtfphlflyluv]

And who is doing the most to help it improve?

Someone cheekily mentioned John Street's brother (Milton) in a string on baggage probs at PHL. Street's late friend Ron White also exercised a lot of influence in the concessions program at PHL. Do you think municipal corruption hurts PHL the most?

Or is it a lack of political will to make the drastic changes necessary for the airport to accomodate the traffic it generates?

Has the business community dragged its heels or not stepped up to the plate? Angela gittens once suggested that to me.

Or is it US Airways' fault for clinging so long to its hub and spoke model, thus overloading PHL with connecting traffic like I've heard a lot of folks gripe about?

I'm looking for your thoughts, and ANYTHING you have to say about PHL.

Sincerely yours,
Objective Journalist

 

[wtfphlflyluv]

The answer to the above is YES!

Aw. I love you guys already. That JP morgan report post was especially illuminating

 

[700UW]

Al Crellin.

 

[robbedagain]

al crelin was/is in charge of opeations. he should have fixed phly yrs ago and instead failed to do so

 

[700UW]

He was Executive Vice President of Operations, second in command at US Airways, everything that affects/effects PHL operation falls under is control.

And Bob, enough of the PHL incident, it adds nothing to the topic nor is it relevant.

 

[Charlie_Tuna]

He was Executive Vice President of Operations, second in command at US Airways, everything that affects/effects PHL operation falls under is control.

And Bob, enough of the PHL incident, it adds nothing to the topic nor is it relevant.

Did I miss something? Isn't this PHL thread and wasn't Piney talking about his precious hometown PHL when he mentioned that turd analogy?

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Kind of hard for anyone, including Al Crellin, to "fix" it if he isn't given the means to do so.

 

[REACC1]

He was Executive Vice President of Operations, second in command at US Airways, everything that affects/effects PHL operation falls under is control.

And Bob, enough of the PHL incident, it adds nothing to the topic nor is it relevant.

It did before the merger also ,he must have something on someone in order to retain a position at U, or should I say LCC. He doesn't return letters, doesn't seem to improve anything. He's just there. Irritating isn't it?

 

[700UW]

Well Bob,

You blamed the whole IAM a zillion times for what happened in PHL.

And yes I blame Crellin you had Rick Pelc try to fix PHL only to be stopped by Crellin.

Crellin has hindered PHL being fixed for years.

And to Airwoman, at US/East he was second in command of the whole airline, the only person with more power was the CEO, he had the means to fix it.

 

[REACC1]

Doesn't matter, it is his job. Couldn't do it then, can't do it now.
Dump his arse. Worthless imo.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Well Bob,

You blamed the whole IAM a zillion times for what happened in PHL.

And yes I blame Crellin you had Rick Pelc try to fix PHL only to be stopped by Crellin.

Crellin has hindered PHL being fixed for years.

And to Airwoman, at US/East he was second in command of the whole airline, the only person with more power was the CEO, he had the means to fix it.

Then I guess you'll have to ask the CEO. 😉 Second is second........always has been and always will be.

 

[700UW]

Al Crellin has and still is responsible for the day to day operation of the airline on the operational side, it was all his doing and under his control.

 

[BoeingBoy]

700UW,

I guess we're tied at 1 & 1 tonight - I'll side with PineyBob here....

Blame Crellin all you want for the factors he could control and you won't get a peep out of me. But last I saw, he didn't control ATC, couldn't order a better runway layout, couldn't increase the ramp space between the concourses, etc. All factors that contribute to the PHL problem.

Wasn't there also someone on his level that had something about marketing in their title? So who's to blame for shoving all those flights into PHL - operations or marketing?

Crellin failed at correcting most/all the things within his control, but he didn't control everything....

Jim

 

[sharktooth]

Blame Crellin all you want for the factors he could control and you won't get a peep out of me. But last I saw, he didn't control ATC, couldn't order a better runway layout, couldn't increase the ramp space between the concourses, etc. All factors that contribute to the PHL problem.

Actually, VP ops, especially at an airport where his company is a majority player, has a lot more say than you imply.

The runway 8-26 was approved by all the players who had been bamboozled by RJ makers stretching the truth on performance. Had Crellin brought a pilot into the mix, PHL could have saved $26 million on that alone.

One of the factors determining ramp space is very ops dependent, where to put vehicles and how to utilize jetways. I would say that some changes would be most helpful.

There is a lot more to the PHL debacle than the carefully chosen topics posted by Bob.

Wasn't there also someone on his level that had something about marketing in their title? So who's to blame for shoving all those flights into PHL - operations or marketing?

Ops _always_ trumps marketing. They provide a practicality to marketings somewhat wishful desires. Your attentions might be better directed to the brainless "can-do" attitude that pervades ops under Crellin, even when a simple thought experiment would label a plan a failure.

Crellin failed at correcting most/all the things within his control, but he didn't control everything....

I certainly would not hold Crellin responsible for a brainless war in Iraq, but, he has a lot more control over PHL ops than you or Bob seem to know. Like a military commander, when things keep going wrong, it is time to change the commander.

Disclaimer: I know Al from PSA. He was pretty useless there, also. Unfortunately, he occupies one of those "protected" and federally mandated positions at an airline. Replacing him is not as simple as it might seem.

 

[BoeingBoy]

The runway 8-26 was approved by all the players who had been bamboozled by RJ makers stretching the truth on performance.

Of course, the minor facts that the much smaller number of RJ's flying for us or the lower passenger/baggage weights in effect when 8/26 was approved had absolutely no effect on the it's envisioned utility - right?

One of the factors determining ramp space is very ops dependent, where to put vehicles and how to utilize jetways.

Ya know, seems like I'm always waiting for someone to move ground equipment in PHL before I can push back or taxi into the alley - not. The distance between concourses only allowing one way ops is the problem, not ground equipment. Even A-West has the same problem on the south side during the international push. The wide-bodies have to push onto
taxiway J because there's not room to turn them around - meaning one pushback at a time.

There is a lot more to the PHL debacle than the carefully chosen topics posted by Bob.

Yeah, I noticed you didn't mention ATC or runway layout either. I guess since you can't blame them on Crellin or Bush they're non-factors.

Jim