Why our management are idiots !

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Abandoned by US Airways
We designed our airport for the airline and helped bail it out after 9/11; this is the thanks we get? complains airport designer TASSO KATSELAS
Sunday, February 17, 2008

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[exHPer]

blah blah blah...time to move on!

 

[N965VJ]

Whatever happened to the study that AFA had commissioned on the PIT base closure?

 

[OTslave]

This is another dead horse.

In the eyes of the US Airways sandboys PIT is dead.
It's a nicer airport, much more efficient in terms of configuration.
But for them, it's dead.

Sorry but let's move on, what's the point with this management crew?

This is another thread that will go nowhere.

 

[USFlyer]

Folks, it's time to move on. Fact is management has analyzed this and feels deploying the assets to other airports/markets will yield better financial results for the Company. None of us are privy to the analyses so anything said here or in the press is simply speculation.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

I live in PIT and it's time to just let it go man. Sick of reading these diatribes...

Later,
Eye

 

[sharktooth]

Fact is management has analyzed this .......

Unless you know for certain, based on experience, I'd suggest your optimism about management and analysis is somewhat misplaced.

 

[Prince of PAWOBs]

Folks, it's time to move on. Fact is management has analyzed this and feels deploying the assets to other airports/markets will yield better financial results for the Company. None of us are privy to the analyses so anything said here or in the press is simply speculation.

Which means we don't know what the outcome was or if there was even an analysis actually performed by US management. My guess is that there wasn't any analysis by current management.

I think the article is a good one, because it doesn't say that Pittsburgh needs US Airways back, but rather that the stockholders are being taken for a ride by inept and dishonest management. (My interpretation)

Yeah, Pittsburgh got the short stick by US Airways, but we get to keep the airport. Sooner or later more airlines may add flights, and whereas the service may not be what it once was, it's still a very good airport. US Airways is just not a very good airline.

I don't think the argument is pointless, either. An airline cuts service to the bone at an airport, but keeps a maintenance base and starts building an Ops center there. Does US Airways think it can move back in if things don't pan out elsewhere? Or is it going to yank its remaining operations after gathering as much free cash as it can? What if it just continues to keep the status quo? Seems pointless to me to have operations in a location that you barely fly to anymore.

But then again, having a point, let alone a valid point, doesn't seem to be Tempe's priority.

 

[Raptor22]

I'm a stock holder because I believe in this company. I think it was a big financial mistake to de-hub PIT.I would have expanded international at PHL and use PIT as a major feeder. The O&D at PHL is important, but at what cost.

If I had a product to sell and in PIT to make a $1.00 it cost me $0.50 and at PHL it cost $0.75 to make the same $1.00 then how important is O&D? ago?

Didn't the company assign more employees (added cost) and doesn't the delays use more Jet A?
How much has PHL changed from 6 months ago? That’s the last time I was there, it was congested and filthy, and the shuttle between gates is BS.I like CLT better, much cleaner.

PIT may never be a HUB but it's one of the best infrastructure airports in the nation. Three parallel runways that can be used simultaneously and room to expand.

If we could movePIT to PHL all the problems would be over.

I live and work in PIT, are any of you stock holders?

 

[tadjr]

are any of you stock holders?

Tried to be twice. Gave up after getting a big fat $0 check after bankruptcies. I think I've supported the company thru my hard work and loyalty for the past 23 years. They can find someone else to throw their money away. Thank you for taking that challenge. 😛h34r:

 

[cynic]

The cost of operating out of PIT would more than make up for any fuel savings realized due to the runway layout. Compare the costs in CLT and PIT.

 

[BoeingBoy]

The cost of operating out of PIT would more than make up for any fuel savings realized due to the runway layout. Compare the costs in CLT and PIT.

Ah....but compare the costs in PHL and PIT. It's no accident that the company never compared those two when they were complaining about the "high cost" of PIT.

Jim

 

[cynic]

Ah....but compare the costs in PHL and PIT. It's no accident that the company never compared those two when they were complaining about the "high cost" of PIT.

Jim

True, but there are people in PHL who actually pay to fly around the country/world. If you can convince all of them to move to the little slice of "heaven" you call PIT, I'm sure the company would be more than happy to move operations back to PIT. For what it's worth PHL was still much lower for landing fees, before PIT raised (then lowered) their fees the last time. I don't have all of the other costs at my disposal right now.

 

[Jen]

True, but there are people in PHL who actually pay to fly around the country/world. If you can convince all of them to move to the little slice of "heaven" you call PIT, I'm sure the company would be more than happy to move operations back to PIT. For what it's worth PHL was still much lower for landing fees, before PIT raised (then lowered) their fees the last time. I don't have all of the other costs at my disposal right now.

Yet it's just terrible that they opened up ops ect. there to get more employees & decreased the traffic for those to enjoy the great benefits on or any employee, just another sandblast to those who make US function. The downward spiral needs to halt! My heart goes out to all PIT and all ever displaced and furloughed US employees, through all everyone has had to deal with! Leaving PIT was a huge mistake!

 

[BoeingBoy]

True, but there are people in PHL who actually pay to fly around the country/world.

Undoubtedly PHL has more O&D than PIT - more people who pay less per mile to fly than those in PIT. And just like PIT, PHL fails as a hub without the connecting traffic - you did know that over 50% of enplaned passengers at PHL are connecting.....

For what it's worth PHL was still much lower for landing fees, before PIT raised (then lowered) their fees the last time. I don't have all of the other costs at my disposal right now.

FWIW, PIT's total fees per enplaned passenger were less than PHL's when US started cutting service. After that, the drop in enplanements caused by US' cutbacks insured that PIT's cost per enplaned passenger whet up. Of course, even that conveniently ignores the operational costs of PHL. How many million of dollars a year in fuel is burned sitting in line, waiting for a gate, etc? How many millions of dollars a year in crew pay is spent sitting in line, waiting for a gate, padding schedules so on-time performance looks better, etc? Those costs don't show up in the cost per enplaned passenger, but it's real money.

You'll find that I've never said that all the PHL flights should be moved to PIT. But the arguments made to support the PIT cutbacks are disingenuous at best.

Jim