Will Oneworld lose JAL?

[goodgirl37]

With the above stated news, the AA/BA/IB linkup probably being denied, and all three unions on the verge of self-help, I have a feeling AA's world is about to come crashing (no pun intended) down on them. Do we park them between Pan Am and Eastern, or Braniff and TWA. Get ready for the show!!

Well, I dont think its THAT serious, but nonetheless, it will not be good if OW loses JAL, which it looks very possible. The real worries should come if Cathay ends up leaving, then there will be problems. Typically, the best contracts have been negotiatied in the worst times, so, regardless, AA should at least give their employess back what they gave up.

 

[AANOTOK]

Well, I dont think its THAT serious

I beg to differ. I believe it could even be worse than that.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

What, don't they know the wunderkind at AMR take the entire weekend off?

JAL is as good as gone.Arpey and the 'Gee Whiz' MBA kids are trying to figure out how to "Retreat with dignity" from this latest debacle.


I can see it now... "The pacific region really isn't a growth area for us, we're more focused on the challenges of air to air refueling of Eagle RJ's on the North Atlantic and our continued retreat on all domestic fronts."

Flightplan 2020 is a misnomer, it should be called "Frightplan 2020".

Just the weekend? But its Thanksgiving ... ... ...

IMHO, it is up to AA alone to prevent JAL from jumping ship. BA is busy looking out for itself by acquiring IB, Finnair has its own labor problems, CX and QN looks like want nothing to do with the JAL mess, which leaves Malev, LAN & Royal Jordanian to chip in $20 into the AA - TPG deal for JAL

 

[FWAAA]

JAL to get $1.1 billion in emergency bailout cash from the government:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/japan-air...4?siteid=yhoof2

Over the weekend, there were rumours that JAL had only about 10 days' worth of operating cash.

Meanwhile, JAL to propose 40 pct cut to pension payouts-media:

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndustr...T26414120091121

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< ------- Well, it looks like it's "put up, or shut up" time for AA!!!!

 

[star power]

<_< ------- Well, it looks like it's "put up, or shut up" time for AA!!!!

AMR will play games, but in the end AMR will shut up. aa has never been a real international airline. the just want to try to play with the big boys and be a international airline. aa management mind set is domestic, they do not have any international management expericence.

 

[Hopeful]

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews...20091125?rpc=44

 

[Hopeful]

AMR will play games, but in the end AMR will shut up. aa has never been a real international airline. the just want to try to play with the big boys and be a international airline. aa management mind set is domestic, they do not have any international management expericence.

Yea like PanAM and TWA.....

 

[FA Mikey]

AMR will play games, but in the end AMR will shut up. aa has never been a real international airline. the just want to try to play with the big boys and be a international airline. aa management mind set is domestic, they do not have any international management expericence.

Interesting, and what US carriers have the international experience?

 

[MCI transplant]

Interesting, and what US carriers have the international experience?

:unsure: --------- Pan Am, and TWA!!!!

 

[Hopeful]

:unsure: --------- Pan Am, and TWA!!!!

You mean the ones that don't exist anymore?

 

[Bob Owens]

Meanwhile, JAL to propose 40 pct cut to pension payouts-media:

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndustr...T26414120091121

Well I guess now the JAL workers will know what its like to work in the US aviation industry. We've taken a 40% paycut in wages since 2003.

 

[Hopeful]

Meanwhile, JAL to propose 40 pct cut to pension payouts-media:

This should make the pro company types jump for joy,,because according to them workers are greedy and executives are deserving.

 

[MCI transplant]

You mean the ones that don't exist anymore?

<_< -------Hey! You catch on quick!!!

 

[777 fixer]

This should make the pro company types jump for joy,,because according to them workers are greedy and executives are deserving.

Speaking of JAL.

http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/11/25/japan...ss-than-pilots/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...0925521116.html

Seventy JAL executives, including Mr. Nishimatsu, are forgoing their December pay to take responsibility for the carrier's woes.