You've Got To Be Kidding

[jimntx]

From the Chicago Sun-Times
Under the policy, United imposed weight limits on flight attendants of both genders but set stricter standards for women, who were required to weigh between 14 and 27 pounds less than male colleagues of the same height and age.
For example, the maximum weight for a 30-year old female flight attendant who was 5-feet, 7-inches tall, was 142 pounds, while a man of the same height and age could weigh up to 161 pounds.

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If this is also about a difference between genders then I don’t think the decision should have gone to the F/A’s. Every weight chart I have looked at had a separate scale for men and women.

It was not about different weight/height ratios. It was about allowable deviations from the "ideal." For instance, you noted that men were allowed to deviate as much as 27 pounds from the chart. Now assume that UA used standard medical charts. Are you aware that the medical definition of obesity is 20 lbs over the ideal weight for your height? And, morbid obesity begins at 30 lbs. over your ideal weight.

By that standard male flight attendants were allowed to be obese, while female flight attendants were not. And, let's not start with the charts are wrong. I know that. I work out on a regular basis. The charts make no allowance for this. I have a low body fat percentage, but according to the charts, I'm more than 20 lbs overweight.

 

[PatPilot]

QUOTE=gatemech,Feb 18 2004, 11:19 PM] From the Chicago Sun-Times
Under the policy, United imposed weight limits on flight attendants of both genders but set stricter standards for women, who were required to weigh between 14 and 27 pounds less than male colleagues of the same height and age.
For example, the maximum weight for a 30-year old female flight attendant who was 5-feet, 7-inches tall, was 142 pounds, while a man of the same height and age could weigh up to 161 pounds.

Replace "Male" with "White", replace "Female" with "Black" and United's policy just doesn't pass the stink test. Whether it was intentional or not, the policy is discriminatory. That alone makes it illegal. Additionally, weight standards that are not a direct result of job specific requirements are specious. If you can do the job, meeting the job specific standards and are fired for reasons not related directly to those job requirements, then you are being unfairly discriminated against.

 

[gatemech]

QUOTE=gatemech,Feb 18 2004, 11:19 PM] From the Chicago Sun-Times
Under the policy, United imposed weight limits on flight attendants of both genders but set stricter standards for women, who were required to weigh between 14 and 27 pounds less than male colleagues of the same height and age.
For example, the maximum weight for a 30-year old female flight attendant who was 5-feet, 7-inches tall, was 142 pounds, while a man of the same height and age could weigh up to 161 pounds.

Replace "Male" with "White", replace "Female" with "Black" and United's policy just doesn't pass the stink test. Whether it was intentional or not, the policy is discriminatory. That alone makes it illegal. Additionally, weight standards that are not a direct result of job specific requirements are specious. If you can do the job, meeting the job specific standards and are fired for reasons not related directly to those job requirements, then you are being unfairly discriminated against.

You are right. I stated that in my first post. What is sad is UA has a habit of breaking the law and see if they get away with it.

 

[The Ronin]

Idealists.... they get everybody stuck in a pile of s***, then cry for the realists to get them out...love your theoretical world folks, to bad it doesn't wash in the real world...I got fat and fired...now you owe me all the money I would have earned plus pain and suffering for being a pig...great gig, and the American way... freak'n bull****

 

[gatemech]

Idealists.... they get everybody stuck in a pile of s***, then cry for the realists to get them out...love your theoretical world folks, to bad it doesn't wash in the real world...I got fat and fired...now you owe me all the money I would have earned plus pain and suffering for being a pig...great gig, and the American way... freak'n bull****

Ronin,

You need to stop holding back and express yourself.

I always enjoy reading your post.

gatemech

 

[PatPilot]

Idealists.... they get everybody stuck in a pile of s***, then cry for the realists to get them out...love your theoretical world folks, to bad it doesn't wash in the real world...I got fat and fired...now you owe me all the money I would have earned plus pain and suffering for being a pig...great gig, and the American way... freak'n bull****

It would seem to be a reasoned and common sensed approach to obey the laws of the land. When you disregard laws that protect individual rights, you risk civil, and sometimes criminal, penalties and the ubiquitous lawsuit. Follow those laws, and your employees will be happier, more productive, and most importantly, will have no reason to sue you.

 

[NAPAUS]

Ah yes! The good old days! Gas was 35 cents a gallon, bread was less than a dollar a loaf and doctors advertised cigarettes on the Philco Black and White TV.

Anyone remember scarlet fever or polio?

How about a one-income family who could afford a house and a car?

Jim Crow Laws, what a fine thing that was!

Drunk drivers usually didn't go to jail or lose their license.

Kids under twelve got in to see movies for free.

Pay for parking? Are you kidding? Gas stations had attendants to wash your windows, check the tires and even give you a free set of steak knives!

People had manners and wouldn't dream of "cussing" in front of ladies and children.

Companies lived up their obligations and didn't think to cheat retirees out of their pensions.

CEO's didn't scam millions out of a corporation and get "golden parachutes" when they failed to suceed with the business.

There was such a thing as ethics in business.

"Made in Japan" meant it was shoddy and cheaply made.

Ladies in China had their feet bound as a sign of status.

The whole world has changed, some good and some bad. A lot of wrongs have been corrected and there's more to be corrected yet.

If you require subservience, get a dog. In need of cheap thrills? Hey, the internet is full of them and lots of planes these days have power ports.

Safety is one issue, discrimination is another.

Perhaps some of us old hags could retire if we had a decent pension and could be assured it wasn't going to be ripped out from under us. And affordable health care.





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AWESUM POST! If you want sexy, go to a strip club or surf the internet.. and the PC line is BS...its about respect and what is right... Thanks Dea.......