traderjake
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PullUp said:Tried it and it worked....
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PullUp said:Tried it and it worked....
Cheers.
So resolve alone doesn't get ones list of demands met? Any particular situation come to mind to prove your theory? What about USA Today ads? Is that good enough? Is THAT leverage? That's the same as being a UCC member recognized by Federal bankruptcy laws isn't it? Why didn't Hummer and Scabford just place an ad demanding 100k plus taxes?traderjake said:APA had leverage and resolve.
USAPA had no leverage therefore resolve is irrelavant.
It takes both.
You think you know more and should ignore the advice of the legal and financial advisors we hired.
Sounds like you didn't learn anything from the LOA 93 negoitions.
You do realize that USAPA has a short life span. Cry no more!Res Judicata said:So resolve alone doesn't get ones list of demands met? Any particular situation come to mind to prove your theory? What about USA Today ads? Is that good enough? Is THAT leverage? That's the same as being a UCC member recognized by Federal bankruptcy laws isn't it? Why didn't Hummer and Scabford just place an ad demanding 100k plus taxes?
Place an ad demanding every law be malleable to whims and desires of a bunch of disgruntled, aged scabs while you're at it...or just keep on suing until one hears what he wants.
Why are dues 150% higher than the APA when the APA delivers real money, and USTUPID delivers embarrassment?
A union has more leverage than independents. We probably agree. The question is not if but how much leverage and at what risk to test it with resolve.traderjake said:
APA had leverage and resolve.
USAPA had no leverage therefore resolve is irrelavant.
It takes both.
You think you know more and should ignore the advice of the legal and financial advisors we hired.
Sounds like you didn't learn anything from the LOA 93 negoitions.
Graceson said:The end result was that a tepid leadership discovered the underlying leverage of membership consensus, board consensus, and the laundry list of stipulations management demanded in return.
So leverage is anything anyone else wants, no matter how it manifests itself -- tangible or intangible. The question is what was the true value of this tangible or intangible leverage.
So by that reasoning, Management sweetened the deal with USAPA in return for nothing of value the Union might offer in trade.traderjake said:
Leverage is having something someone else needs and is not intangible.
Your mixing resolve and leverage and then blaming tepid leadership for not using leverage we didn't have.
luvthe9 said:You can vote or change your vote by visiting https://www.BallotPoint.com/USAPA
Hummel has no objection to that.... And once again you announce your "integrity" has limits.snapthis said:....
While y'all are distracted with this petty recall, the West will move forward with the negotiations.
Yea and since USAPA has found itself in court because of it's lack of integrity to represent West pilot as it claims, I don't think we need USAPA's help. Remember the important "union" business like the recall.Phoenix said:Hummel has no objection to that.... And once again you announce your "integrity" has limits.
It's been going on since the day the fake union was birthed. Do you really think January 10th is going to bring anything but more frenetic dysfunction? Magically, USTUPID is going to get it's sh*t together? Never happen. It's going to be madness until the final implosion. Inept idiots destroying careers. It's so obvious at this point I doubt anybody needs me to point this fact out any more.PullUp said:Meanwhile, back in the real world, the clock is ticking on the negotiated seniority settlement opportunity.
Let's get the political theater powerplay over with and get down to what affects the future of the pilots here.
I can't wait until the 9th so my inbox won't be overflowing with venomous rhetoric anymore.
The FACT you repeatedly point out is 1- the FBI was dead on when they deep sixed your app.Res Judicata said:It's been going on since the day the fake union was birthed. Do you really think January 10th is going to bring anything but more frenetic dysfunction? Magically, USTUPID is going to get it's sh*t together? Never happen. It's going to be madness until the final implosion. Inept idiots destroying careers. It's so obvious at this point I doubt anybody needs me to point this fact out any more.