A bad bill before Congress

[Dont call me Shirley]

The House of Representatives is set to vote on a bill that could stop people from protesting or speaking out about cruelty to animals. While the bill takes aim against violent protests, it could also be interpreted to ban even peaceful protests, letter-writing, or leafleting that make animal abusers feel “intimidatedâ€￾ or “harassed.â€￾ It would even eliminate the kinds of undercover investigations that have revealed the cruelties in laboratories and farms.

H.R. 4239, misnamed the “Animal Enterprise Terrorism Actâ€￾ was pushed by those who run farms, circuses, rodeos, and testing labs, and it sailed through the Senate. It is now before the House of Representatives in what is called the “suspension calendar,â€￾ a list of bills that the Representatives believe have no opposition. Learn more about the AETA.

The vote could take place as early as Monday. But we can stop this bill if you call your Representative first thing. All you have to do is to say this bill goes way too far, and that it needs to be pulled off the suspension calendar.

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The AETA has already passed in the Senate. The House of Representatives has not heard enough opposition to keep it off the calendar with bills considered uncontroversial. Unless Congressmembers hear that this bill undermines First Amendment rights, the majority may vote for passage as soon as Congress reconvenes tomorrow, Nov. 13.
Thank you for taking action. For more information, please go to pcrm.org

 

[700IAM]

The House of Representatives is set to vote on a bill that could stop people from protesting or speaking out about cruelty to animals. While the bill takes aim against violent protests, it could also be interpreted to ban even peaceful protests, letter-writing, or leafleting that make animal abusers feel “intimidatedâ€￾ or “harassed.â€￾ It would even eliminate the kinds of undercover investigations that have revealed the cruelties in laboratories and farms.

H.R. 4239, misnamed the “Animal Enterprise Terrorism Actâ€￾ was pushed by those who run farms, circuses, rodeos, and testing labs, and it sailed through the Senate. It is now before the House of Representatives in what is called the “suspension calendar,â€￾ a list of bills that the Representatives believe have no opposition. Learn more about the AETA.

The vote could take place as early as Monday. But we can stop this bill if you call your Representative first thing. All you have to do is to say this bill goes way too far, and that it needs to be pulled off the suspension calendar.

.

The AETA has already passed in the Senate. The House of Representatives has not heard enough opposition to keep it off the calendar with bills considered uncontroversial. Unless Congressmembers hear that this bill undermines First Amendment rights, the majority may vote for passage as soon as Congress reconvenes tomorrow, Nov. 13.
Thank you for taking action. For more information, please go to pcrm.org

First-- I love animals, will always have at least one around me. But, when I saw these freaks who give more service to animals than our Lord standing in the woods in front of men with rifles to stop what they consider the slaughter of animals, that did it for me.

That was the point when I realized how screwed up these people are, twisted comes to mind. I hope this bill flies thru!


Next it will be trees and flowers.


With all the other important issues facing this nation this is a no issue.

 

[Gilding the Lily]

The House of Representatives is set to vote on a bill that could stop people from protesting or speaking out about cruelty to animals. While the bill takes aim against violent protests, it could also be interpreted to ban even peaceful protests, letter-writing, or leafleting that make animal abusers feel “intimidatedâ€￾ or “harassed.â€￾ It would even eliminate the kinds of undercover investigations that have revealed the cruelties in laboratories and farms.

H.R. 4239, misnamed the “Animal Enterprise Terrorism Actâ€￾ was pushed by those who run farms, circuses, rodeos, and testing labs, and it sailed through the Senate. It is now before the House of Representatives in what is called the “suspension calendar,â€￾ a list of bills that the Representatives believe have no opposition. Learn more about the AETA.

The vote could take place as early as Monday. But we can stop this bill if you call your Representative first thing. All you have to do is to say this bill goes way too far, and that it needs to be pulled off the suspension calendar.

.

The AETA has already passed in the Senate. The House of Representatives has not heard enough opposition to keep it off the calendar with bills considered uncontroversial. Unless Congressmembers hear that this bill undermines First Amendment rights, the majority may vote for passage as soon as Congress reconvenes tomorrow, Nov. 13.
Thank you for taking action. For more information, please go to pcrm.org

The recent Senate record should dispel any fears you have of banning peaceful protests. After the Committee on the Judiciary considered and approved of the bill, Senator Leahy said the following:

"The current version of the bill clears up the confusion. It strikes the misdemeanor provision in its entirety and clarifies that the substantive offense created by the bill requires proof of intentional damage to real or personal property, not simply a loss of profits. These changes will ensure that legitimate, peaceful conduct is not chilled by the threat of Federal prosecution, and that prosecution is reserved for the worst offenders."

This took place on September 29, 2006. Citation: 152 Cong Rec S 10793.

 

[Seatacus]

First-- I love animals, will always have at least one around me.

Question- Do all dogs go to heaven? :unsure: I've always wondered.

 

[PITbull]

Question- Do all dogs go to heaven? :unsure: I've always wondered.

Well, it goes like this...700IAM dogs would go to heaven. However, in your case, your dogs won't go cause your not saved according to "Darth Vader".

 

[Leto2]

The House of Representatives is set to vote on a bill that could stop people from protesting or speaking out about cruelty to animals. While the bill takes aim against violent protests, it could also be interpreted to ban even peaceful protests, letter-writing, or leafleting that make animal abusers feel “intimidatedâ€￾ or “harassed.â€￾ It would even eliminate the kinds of undercover investigations that have revealed the cruelties in laboratories and farms.

I don't think the Supreme Court or any lower courts would interpret it to ban peaceful protests. They're pretty good at protecting our 1st Amendment rights. (A little too good if you ask me...)

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

Question- Do all dogs go to heaven? :unsure: I've always wondered.

Wasn't it Mark Twain who said "Of course dogs to Heaven. Otherwise, it wouldn't be heaven"

 

[Gilding the Lily]

Shirley,

Hate to break it to you; but the House unanimously passed the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act on Monday. It now goes to the President for his signature.

 

[PITbull]

Shirley,

Hate to break it to you; but the House unanimously passed the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act on Monday. It now goes to the President for his signature.

delete

 

[700IAM]

Well, it goes like this...700IAM dogs would go to heaven. However, in your case, your dogs won't go cause your not saved according to "Darth Vader".

At least you have a sense of humor....see you on the other side T---CK

 

[PITbull]

At least you have a sense of humor....see you on the other side T---CK

You mean I'll be going same place you go? B)

 

[700IAM]

Shirley,

Hate to break it to you; but the House unanimously passed the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act on Monday. It now goes to the President for his signature.

Another animal rights freak who would ignore our Lord and worship animals...the Devil must have invited you over for dinner and you stayed the night...

Do Animals Have A Soul?


The English word animal is derived from a Latin root word meaning to breathe, hence an animal is literally defined as any living, physical creature. To animate simply means to fill with breath, or to make alive. Humans are, by the classic "animal, vegetable or mineral" summation of all that physically exists on earth, animals. The King James Version uses "beast," whereas later translations more-often use "animal" to translate a number of original words of the Scriptures, such as the Hebrew words (pronounced) kaw-ee, meaning alive, a very general term for all living creatures, including humans, and be-hay-maw, meaning an unspeaking animal, or dumb beast, an obvious reference to non-human animals.

"Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?"

In describing the time of creation, the terms "living creature" for animals and "living soul" for humans are English translations of the very same original Hebrew words, kaw-ee, meaning alive (translated as "living" in "living creature" for animals and "living soul" for humans), and neh-fesh, meaning a breathing creature (alternately translated as "creature" and "soul" in "living creature" for animals and "living soul" for humans).

The Good Shepherd

"And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good." (Genesis 1:24-25 KJV)

"And The Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7 KJV)

By God's own Word, although the human potential (for the repentant ones) is near-infinitely greater, humans are also animals, or beasts:

"I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts."

"For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again." (Ecclesiastes 3:18-20 KJV)

The actual Bible word translated as "spirit" in the "spirit of man" and the "spirit of the beast" in the verses below is the Hebrew word (pronounced) roo-ackh which simply means breath, or to exhale. The "last breath" is what is being described as "spirit" in these verses; the original word does not have any literal or figurative meaning of "spirit" in a "spiritual" way:

"All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 3:20-21 KJV)

 

[700IAM]

You mean I'll be going same place you go? B)

I hope...really I do...